First cycle advice!

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dpep

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Hello all, First time poster.

Looking for some advice for my first cycle. Plan so far:

Weeks 1-8 Test prop
Weeks 1-6 Tren Ace

ED injct with 25mg tren and 50mg prop (small pin)

Now been reading about tren sides and dont want to get leaky nipps. (will get some bromo in case)

Have read taking Winstrol (winny) or mast can counter the prolact issues associated with tren?


Anyone able to post some experience regarding this? The rest of my post cycle therapy (pct) is pretty much sorted regarding the prop.



Current condition
 
I'v read that but why? If i did test first then tren second whats the difference?

Just asking not trying to be funny. My natty test seems to be fine so i don't want to just replace that i'm only taking the test because i want to run tren...
 
ya bro test first that way you know how your body reacts to estrogen. You need to start getting blood work done because that is the only way to really learn how to control it, otherwise its just a shot in the dark.

tren is a 19nor and is the harshest and strongest steroid out there, it demands respect. You dont fly a jet before you fly a single engine cessna
 
So i guess i'm being convinced to knock the tren and Winstrol (winny) of my first cycle. Shame.

As far as i understand, people sensitive to est gyno will be more likely to get tren gyno?

I suppose a higher dose test cycle 500+w/k will let me know...

The idea with my first cycle posted was to avoid potential estro sides, only 350mg wk, hopefully just enough to keep my libido etc in check without worrying about est gyno while i let the tren go to work (175mg wk).
winny was just a potential tren sides reducer...

(would have all 3; test, DHT, 19nor)


So you guys would recommend something like:

Test Prop ~70 ED 8 weeks (or 140-150 EOD)

Total ~500mg wk...


I hope someone recommends my first plan :D
 
No one is going to recommend your first plan, Winstrol (winny) is garbage, and if you're worried about estro sides throw in an AI
 
ya test p at 100mg eod is the minimum so 150 would be fine imo

bro Winstrol (winny) doesnt stop tren sides and its not tren gyno its a prolactin issue.

there are people out there that can have very high estrogen without noticing any sides. That is why blood work is so crucial
 
Well i was deciding between winy or masteron.
I read they can have significant effects in helping tren gyno (prolactin)
As the DHT compound competes for the same receptors as the prolact does caused by tren.

Thats the only reason i was thinking about running it.


Trying to get hold of some IGF-1 also but having problems (funny thing is gropep are down the road from me lol)

But no chance getting anything from them, i'v tried :D.


So with a test only cycle i guess if i have some arimidex on hand (letro overkill?)

and then post cycle therapy (pct) consisting off clomid or nolva depending on what i can get hold off.


Thank for being patient with me.
 
extreme peptides for your post cycle therapy (pct) and anti e bro

letro isnt needed
 
dpep said:
Well i was deciding between winy or masteron.
I read they can have significant effects in helping tren gyno (prolactin)
As the DHT compound competes for the same receptors as the prolact does caused by tren.

Thats the only reason i was thinking about running it.


Trying to get hold of some IGF-1 also but having problems (funny thing is gropep are down the road from me lol)

But no chance getting anything from them, i'v tried :D.


So with a test only cycle i guess if i have some arimidex on hand (letro overkill?)

and then pct consisting off clomid or nolva depending on what i can get hold off.


Thank for being patient with me.
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my standard 1st cycle reccomendation is 400-600 mg a week of test eth or cyp for 10-12 weeks , 2x a week injections.start clomid 2 weeks after last injections at 50 mg a day for 3-4 weeks.

if you use prop do a similar dose divided into no more than eod injects for a mininum of 8-10 weeks.start clomid at 50 mg a day for 3-4 weeks 3 days after last injection.

as far as estrogen side effects , many people can run those doses with ;little to no side effects. 90% of the gyno cases on these boards are internet hysteria , ive had guys pm or mail me in a panic swearing they had full blown gyno the afternoon of their 1st injection lol . far more people get high blood pressure frrom bloating and high blood pressure is NOT a joke , keep a eye on blood pressure while on cycle. to combat estrogen pick either aromasin or aimidex . i prefer aromasin , start at 6.25 -12.5 mg a day and adjust it up from there IF and i say IF necessary , do not drive estrogen to low. if you use arimidex start at .25 mg eod , notice the ./point before the 25 , thats 1/4 mg eod to start.
 
Thanks for the informative reply.

I think i'll go ahead with the test prop as i'v already order 40ml of the stuff.
Then i suppose i can test my sensitivity and pocket a bit of knowledge for next time...

I suppose i was looking forward to the tren test mast combo but hopefully i'll get some good results using only prop.

The closest thing to a cycle i'v ever done thus far is creatine ;)


for my next cycle i'm looking to do something along these lines:

Weeks 1-6
tren A ~175mg wk
mast ~175mg wk

Weeks 1-8
Test P ~500wk

Any thoughts or suggestions regarding this? Rather get it all planned in advance :)
 
dpep said:
Thanks for the informative reply.

I think i'll go ahead with the test prop as i'v already order 40ml of the stuff.
Then i suppose i can test my sensitivity and pocket a bit of knowledge for next time...

I suppose i was looking forward to the tren test mast combo but hopefully i'll get some good results using only prop.

The closest thing to a cycle i'v ever done thus far is creatine ;)


for my next cycle i'm looking to do something along these lines:

Weeks 1-6
tren A ~175mg wk
mast ~175mg wk

Weeks 1-8
Test P ~500wk

Any thoughts or suggestions regarding this? Rather get it all planned in advance :)
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why would you plan a next cycle when you havent even started your 1st one lol. quit worrying about anything but eating and training right for this cycle.
 
ok :) I'm planning on eating and training as i always do. Don't think i can go much harder!

although i'v never been on juice so..
Have some clen on order too so i'll run that towards the end and loose a bit more fattys.

Thanks for your help.

On a quick note i'm trying to get some 28g pins... will this be ok with prop? planning on ED injc so i dont want a big pin.
 
my first cycle

im new and i just got my andropen 275 with tren. but i got a clear cap with hollowgram on both bottles. and its not as dark as the pics on the british dagon website and they have differ color caps too. Manufactured date for trenabol acetate is 10/2010 100mg, andropen is 04/2011. what do yal think is it fake or good. im thinking of 1cc mon and thur of the andro and i really dont know about the tren? im also thinking 1/2 cc in each arm with the andro. is that the best place? what about the tren? and whats the best gage to use? im 6'4 220lbs. past year i have gained alot in the gut arear.lol. im 33 yrs old. just woundering if the is best for me or should i take sumthing else. ready to get swole and cut for summer
 
cant judge tren by its color. Ive had some stuff from a company that was bright orange. Next time I ordered it from them it was brownish. Its all in what they use to make it. If you dont think its real send it to me and I will be sure to let you know the outcome :)
 
dpep said:
ok :) I'm planning on eating and training as i always do. Don't think i can go much harder!

although i'v never been on juice so..
Have some clen on order too so i'll run that towards the end and loose a bit more fattys.

Thanks for your help.

On a quick note i'm trying to get some 28g pins... will this be ok with prop? planning on ED injc so i dont want a big pin.
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for a im injection 25 guage is as small as i go and that 25g 1 inch to delts and quads. 23 g 1.5 inch to glutes .
 
Thanks,

Looks like i'll be running Test E now anyway as otherwise i have to wait a few months for prop.

And to run 500mg of Test E i only need 16ml for 8 weeks versus 40ml with the prop....
 
dpep said:
Thanks,

Looks like i'll be running Test E now anyway as otherwise i have to wait a few months for prop.

And to run 500mg of Test E i only need 16ml for 8 weeks versus 40ml with the prop....
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Are you set on 8 weeks? That's pretty short for the enanthate ester. Why not go 10-12?
 
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