First cycle ever, Helladrol.

Bootstomper said:
Forged Liver actually has NAC in it and is a solid option. TUDCA is the gold standard for liver support, but if you already have forged liver you should be okay with a milder methylated PH like Hella.
Echoing what noob said, you want to run it 6 weeks, and you should be able to run a 6 weeks at 100mg per day with 1 bottle.
As for PCT, many will suggest a SERM such as clomid, many believe you can get by with the OTC PCT supps available.
As for if what you have is "enough", I would add at the minimum some generic DAA. I use premium powders DAA which you can get from the mrsupps store as well, or if money isn't a factor I'd add either Test Infusion, MHO Poppers, or Methyl EAA (any one of the 3).

With what you have above, this is how I would run the cycle.
Weeks 1-6
Helladrol 75/75/100/100/100/100
Forged Liver 0/0/2/2/2/2
(If you're adding OTC DHEA, I'd start forma in week 3 as well because regular DHEA can convert to estrogen)
So, if DHEA - start forma in week 3 10/10/10/10 pumps per day

PCT
Forged PCT as you have listed
Forma Stanzol 10/6/6/6
DAA @ 3g per day or any of the test boosters I mentioned at the suggest dosing on the bottle
(and then the SERM if you so choose)

Also as noob said, you'll want to run fish oil and Taurine (for back pumps) during cycle as well.

Other than that, Eat, train hard, rest hard and kill it!
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I'm gonna run my cycle like this, as you suggested, but i'm changing my pct to just clomid or something. I have a question, do the liver support pills interfere in any way with the helladrol?
 
AlphaDawg said:
I'm gonna run my cycle like this, as you suggested, but i'm changing my pct to just clomid or something. I have a question, do the liver support pills interfere in any way with the helladrol?
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You need the liver support pills for the Helladrol. The Helladrol is toxic on your liver and the liver pills combat that.
 
I have to teak a break from lifting for a couple continuous days to see if these ribs will heal up. I feel beat to shit lately so i think this will benefit me at this time. Sunday will start my 5th week so if i don't feel better next week, I'm gonna pull the plug and call it quits on the cycle. Tomorrow I'm going to do strictly cardio and legs to give my upper a rest. Then Sunday I'm gonna try chest again and see how goes it.
 
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I have to teak a break from lifting for a couple continuous days to see if these ribs will heal up. I feel beat to shit lately so i think this will benefit me at this time. Sunday will start my 5th week so if i don't feel better next week, I'm gonna pull the plug and call it quits on the cycle. Tomorrow I'm going to do strictly cardio and legs to give my upper a rest. Then Sunday I'm gonna try chest again and see how goes it.
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hope they get better
 
Saturday I got a stomach bug and couldn't eat or hold down anything. I didn't take halo or liver support all day. Just couldn't. No Forma either. Yesterday I did 75mg after I started feeling better. Back to normal today! Today was my first day back at the gym and I felt great! Actually better then I have in a long time. Did somebody say Gainz? Ohh yea. Ribs aren't even 80% but enough to do bench! Started off with a set of 225 for ten. Usually on my 10 one I start to wear. Today I probably could have done 15. Second set I pushed out 245 for 8. Third set 265 for 6!! I hit my PB of 225 on the incline for 8 or 9 on my first set!! Second set I got 5 and called it quits. I learned something with my body this week. Rest is best. And I'm not going to punish myself ever time I'm in the gym. Work each muscle group just enough. I have been over working myself every time. 3 sets and done. Maybe 2 if I'm getting tired.
 
The good news is, that based on my experience, halo stays with you for a while.
I still felt like a boss the first 2 weeks of PCT, so the day you lost won't matter at all.
 
AlphaDawg said:
Alright. So do you take two cycle support pills in the evening, and 3-4 helladrol pills during the day?
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I've been taking one in the morning and one at night per manufactures instructions on the bottle. I'm running low so now I'm only taking one at night starting last night. I'm not dropping another $70 on a bottle for one more week on cycle. It's not gonna kill me. I'm taking Forged.

Do you think it was hurting me following the directions guys? I never read anything about liver support counteracting on the Helladrol? Link me if you have some reading for me please!
 
I started this thread to keep track of my progress and to inform others how effective or not a cycle of Helladrol is so tomorrow I'm gonna email mrsupps regarding this and get some of the manufacturers feed back on this topic as well. I think we can all learn something from it.

Here is what I personally think. Halo replaces natural test when I cycle around the 3rd week. Being that Halo is toxic to the liver, it requires a support. I believe that if you have Halo in your system, you should also have the support. Even from day one. I read some don't suggest using the support till week 2 or 3. I don't agree. I also believe that 1 pill of Forged support is good for 12 hrs based on the recommended dosage. So taking one in the morning with your first 25mg of Halo, and one before bed with last dose of Halo. This is all my belief based on recommended dosages and what I read on forums. 25mg of Halo last *up to 8 hours in the system. This must vary if you drink tons of water. Keep in mind, this is all MY beliefs and what I have read in my research before deciding to cycle Helladrol. Just my .02$. My email hopefully will help all is PH users!
 
Ohh to mark it down on my log, my fiancé called me a "roid head" today for the first time. LOLz

Today was day 2 of not smoking for her too! #EDIT
 
I did a live chat on mrsupps and this is what i got. I guess we are on our own on this.




Me:
Question
Does Forged Liver support effect Helladrol in any way when you take it together. I have been in a debate on a forum and some say that liver support counter effects Helladrol so they say only take 2 pills of the liver support at night before bed and not in the morning. I have been taking 1 pill along with one Helladrol pill in the am when i wake up, 2 pills spread thru the day of Helladrol and my last pill before bed along with one cycle support. Can you clarify if this is correct?
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ME:
You can not tell me if the liver cycle support has an effect on the Helladrol? It is a stack that i bought from you guys.
ME:
I know your not a Dr. If you were a Dr you would tell me not to buy it or take it. C'mon man
Rusty:
The directions recommend to take 1 in the morning and 1 at night with MEALS
ME:
i know. I read that. Can you recommend someone who can answer my question besides some guys on a steroid forum?
ME:
No Dr needed.
ME:
How about the manufacturer? DO you have an email address i can send my question to?
Rusty:
Every human body is different and some of the products effect people differently and from my understanding that liver support is to help the process move along correctly and to always take care of your liver and I don't understand why any company would recommend a dosing that would be harmful to the body. Liver support is very crucial in a cycle
 
Tuesday i did a monstrous back session. This shit really does work! Every thing i lifted felt light. I hit PB on everything i did and i still could have kept going. I find that if i don't take a PWO i don't have the motivation that i normally do. The past few months my lower back has been pretty shotty to say the least so i haven't been able to do dead lifts until recent. So I'm easing my way back into them now. Im starting off with what i call half deads. I did a couple sets of 10 @225 and went up to 315 for two sets, one of 6 and last 4. I have to try straps case it was hard to hold. For everyone wondering if helladrol is legit, IT IS! I was skeptical before and i can say for the first two to 3 weeks., but now.. I wouldn't think twice about running another cycle. Also switching up my training to EOD. This has nothing but benefits for me at the ripe age of 37***8230; The recovery days really benefit me i can tell. Today is gonna be shoulders! Cant wait!!!



I think next cycle I'm going to add some TBol into the mix for the first 4 weeks to get shit going faster. I really think this will be the ultimate cycle because Helladrol don't kick in until the 3rd to 4th week for me. Im thinking for next cycle I'm gonna run TBol 20/20/20/20 and HDrol 75/75/75/75/100/100 along with support. I think it will be the ticket!
 
Yeah, hella is real alright!
For my second run of it, I decided to try speed things up with Trenavar.
We'll soon know of that equation qorks out :)
 
Last night i had another Hella work out!

I did shoulders. 80lb Db's shoulder press for 6! PB

It was a pretty mied routine and didn't stick 100% to shoulders. I did some arms and chest as well. I wanted to give the bench a shot last night now that my ribs aren't super sore and wow am i surprised! I wanted to see hiow many times i could press 225lbs at one time. I hit 15! This was after 30 minutes of shoulders too. I felt i could have done one or two more but i didn't have a spotter. I have one more week on cycle :(
 
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