First cycle - litle imput please

[THE-DET-OAK]

well since nolva can aggravate deca sides-just stay away from nolva while runnin deca why risk it?

deca does lubricate the joints-but you just dont need it bro-not necessary.

just run test-thats it-thats all you will need-this bb guy your are talking to is on a whole different level than you.

so keep it simple for your first run as others have stated in this thread

1-10 test cyp 500mg a week

13-16 post cycle therapy (pct) either clomid or nolva-no need for both

your prolly pretty skinny so running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is not a must-but good to have on hand.

 

[g60]

i agree, i don't want to take anything that is going to exagerate the effects of another product

if i were to take the deca...do you forsee any major downsides? is it more important to take something along with the deca vs just test and nothing else?



are these correct dosages for post cycle therapy (pct) (only be taking one or the other)

post cycle therapy (pct) wk 14-18 nolva 20/20/10/10
post cycle therapy (pct) clomid wk 14-18 50/50/25/25

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

your post cycle therapy (pct) doses are fine-although no need to lower clomid dose last 2 weeks

trust me please you do not need the deca-with deca your getting in to prolactin and progesterone sides-since you have yet to cycle you dont even know if you can handle the sides from the test.

I mean if you get gyno while on deca+test what the hell are you going to do? how will you know wether test or deca is causing gyno?

and what about deca dick? do you know what causes it and how to take care of it?

what if your test is fake in future cycles-you will never know since you didnt run a test only cycle to see how it makes you feel.


TEST ONLY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

also if you run a 12 week cycle post cycle therapy (pct) will start week 15

 

[g60]

ok, i think that was enough to realize, no deca...no deca dick please lol...i like sex too much

it will be a 10 week cycle, just based on the amount of test we have (2 10mil vials)

would you recommend nolva or clomid?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

it really doesnt matter-i use clomid

if you just run test-you made the right decision-if you eat right and train your ass off you wont be the skinny guy anymore.

One of the benefits of test is you can workout more than you would normally be able to-recovery wise.

 

[g60]

ha ok thanks man

so clomid for post cycle therapy (pct)

wk 14-18 50/50/50/50 (you said keep the last two weeks the same?)

and keep what on hand during the cycle? nolva? or should i be ok? getting stuff quick shouldn't be a problem but i don't want to have any major issues with not being prepared


we've got the deca already (although i said originally i didn't want it, my partner talked me into it...my bad) i'll see if i can't return it for some clomid etc or i'll just take it as a loss of stupidity

i don't plan on running another cycle after this one, just want to gain some mass and maintain after that

thanks again

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

ha ok thanks man

so clomid for post cycle therapy (pct)

wk 14-18 50/50/50/50 (you said keep the last two weeks the same?)

and keep what on hand during the cycle? nolva? or should i be ok? getting stuff quick shouldn't be a problem but i don't want to have any major issues with not being prepared


we've got the deca already (although i said originally i didn't want it, my partner talked me into it...my bad) i'll see if i can't return it for some clomid etc or i'll just take it as a loss of stupidity

i don't plan on running another cycle after this one, just want to gain some mass and maintain after that

thanks again

yes-your clomid dose should stay @ 50 mg ED for 4 weeks.

AI = Aromatose inhibitor

An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) slows the conversion of testosterone to estrogen-you should know this information.

you need to spend more time reading the steroid profiles- also to find out what the difference is between SERM and AI.

you should know this kind of info.

5 p principle of life.

proper preparation prevents poor performance.

 

[hogman]

yes-your clomid dose should stay @ 50 mg ED for 4 weeks.

AI = Aromatose inhibitor

An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) slows the conversion of testosterone to estrogen-you should know this information.

you need to spend more time reading the steroid profiles- also to find out what the difference is between SERM and AI.

you should know this kind of info.

5 p principle of life.

proper preparation prevents poor performance.

Newbie, thats almost deep! the 5 P's i like it

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

lol my childhood friend's dad taught me that when he made is jog around around the block before school in the morning dribbling a basketball with the left hand.

 

[hogman]

lol my childhood friend's dad taught me that when he made is jog around around the block before school in the morning dribbling a basketball with the left hand.

Good stuff! I amgoing to put that into my bag of tricks and us it for all those fat bitches I train

I may alter it a little:

Pick your

Posterior off the

Pourch you

Phat

Pig

Yup I think I got all 5!

 

[hogman]

ha ok thanks man

so clomid for post cycle therapy (pct)

wk 14-18 50/50/50/50 (you said keep the last two weeks the same?)

and keep what on hand during the cycle? nolva? or should i be ok? getting stuff quick shouldn't be a problem but i don't want to have any major issues with not being prepared


we've got the deca already (although i said originally i didn't want it, my partner talked me into it...my bad) i'll see if i can't return it for some clomid etc or i'll just take it as a loss of stupidity

i don't plan on running another cycle after this one, just want to gain some mass and maintain after that

thanks again

I just read this entire thread and I noticed that you are running a 10 week cycle in witch case you need to start post cycle therapy (pct) at week 13-17.

Glad you are droping the deca.

 

[g60]

ya i'll read up some more on Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and SERM

totally agree on your 5 P's


another question, sex drive, what can i expect?

I'm 25 so that's not a problem but just so i know what might happen

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

LOL-dude your sex drive will triple-i mean its almost annoying sometimes-my dick gets hard when the wind blows-hope you got a regular chic

 

[g60]

ha ya ok that's what i was told was going to happen

yup, regular gf

was also told to try to keep it to once a day

is too much a bad thing? almost "wasting" the test? again, something i was told

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i have no idea about that-i hope not-if thats the case i wasted a lot!

 

[Teutonic]

Just run the test, secure proper Aromatase inhibitor (AI) s, do proper post cycle therapy (pct) and fuck everytime you can. ..if she lets you..I hope she s a trooper !

 

[hogman]

ha ya ok that's what i was told was going to happen

yup, regular gf

was also told to try to keep it to once a day

is too much a bad thing? almost "wasting" the test? again, something i was told

If you have a GF you better invest in a mistress and a ho! 3 is company!

 

[g60]

hahaha ok thanks guys...she's good to go so no worries there lol

 

[g60]

can someone give me a good link to read up on AI?

i search and all that comes up are other threads asking about different things etc....just want an overview read

thanks