First Cycle...my cutter.

[Furian]

First Cycle--Update

Upon waking...

Weight was 231.
Body Temp was 97.4
Heartrate was 65


Well day one not too bad.

Stuck after shower in the A.M.

Interesting experience. I was wondring how it would feel. To my surprise, I didn't even feel it. At all. That was nice.

I ran into two difficulties, well, what I would call difficulties.

When Drawing, it seemed to take forever. Like syrup. I ran the vial under hot water for 10-15 secs or so. Maybe longer?

Secondly, I stuck and aspirated, all went well, little bubblies, no blood. Then when injecting it went very slow. Seemed tough to push in. Normal? Sure I was going slow since 1st time, but I thought it would have went in a bit faster.

Once injected I released my finger off the plunger, the plunger withdrew a bit...blood followed into the syrienge. Just a tiny bit....normal?

I think after I injected all the way, I should have withdrew quicker. I let it sit in there for a bit...hestiating the withdrawal. I think in that time I may have shook or something and the needle prolly moved inside.

Shoulder was not sore. Now it is. Like someone punched me. Not bad. I would have thought it would be sore later not this soon. I think it is the movement of the needle after injection that is causing the soreness.

No swelling, no real pain. Overall, went well...better than I expected.

Off to a good start.

P.S.
I think I went too deep. possible with 1.5"? I went in left delt. I don't have large shoulders so I am thinking I went too deep. Didn't hit bone or anything, but could account for the soreness?

 

[Furian]

Here's my cycle. I forgot to put it in the post above.

Week 1-10 Test Enanthate 500mg wk
Weeks 5-10 T3
Weeks 5-12 Clen/ECY (2 on 2 off ECY)
Weeks 13-15 Clomid PCT
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Nolva on hand in case. I also purchased Letro from the site sponsor. Not sure if I will use it yet. If so, start week 3 at .5mg EOD

If interested, here is complete breakdown.
http://www.mightysworld.com/mightycycle.htm

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Moved to the appropriate forum......

 

[Vigilance]

Everything you described seems pretty normal. What size needle are you using? If drawing into the syringe is really slow, pick up some 20g to draw with and you can inject with something smaller like 23 or 25g. You only need 1" for your shoulders. If all you have is 1.5" then stick with glute injections. Since your running Test E, you really don't need to worry too much about rotating injection spots.

 

[Vigilance]

I just reread your post. I don't know what you mean by "little Bubbles", but you shouldn't have any bubbles at all while your injecting. You need to make sure you get rid of any bubbles in the syringe before you inject.

 

[needsize]

are you saying this is your actual first cycle, if so, I have no idea why you would waste it on a cutter. first time your body experiences steroids, you will have growth that you will never again see, its the first cycle magic. But if you use that magic on a cutter, well that just aint gonna happen then

 

[Behemoth]

I just reread your post. I don't know what you mean by "little Bubbles", but you shouldn't have any bubbles at all while your injecting. You need to make sure you get rid of any bubbles in the syringe before you inject.

Have you ever aspirated before?

 

[AussieThunder]

are you saying this is your actual first cycle, if so, I have no idea why you would waste it on a cutter. first time your body experiences steroids, you will have growth that you will never again see, its the first cycle magic. But if you use that magic on a cutter, well that just aint gonna happen then

Would you say that the same applies to strength increases too? i.e. Do you get the largest strength increases out of your first cycle?

 

[LeanMeOut]

Get your diet in order before you do anything....

 

[Behemoth]

I have to agree with needsize though. I think using your first cycle as a cutter is a waste.

 

[kraziplaya]

im gonna have to agree with the guys on avoiding the cutter.... when i ran my first cycle i dieted really well... maintained high protein and was eating every 2-hours... i lost fat and gained muscle on a 8 week cycle of enanthate... im sure u could do the same... i feel my diet was what contributed to great results... i didnt even do much cardio... eat right and you will be thoroughly satisfied

 

[roidjuice]

Make sure you draw back on the plunger when you have the needle injected. If ther is blood coming back in, then you are probably in a vein or artery. Re-stick yourself or pull it out a little (preferably re-inject)

1.5" is way to long for your delt unless you have some mass there. Since this is your first cycle, I'm guessing you don't. Try 25g 1" needles if you want to d delts or biceps.

how much you running a week?

 

[Vigilance]

Have you ever aspirated before?

lol, I was tired when I replied last night. I thought he had bubbles in the syringe before the injection, and then shot them into this leg. My bad...

 

[Furian]

no problem, i wasn't correct either when I posted.

I did use the 25g 1" for the delt injection.

Not sure why I put 1.5, I think I just had it on my mind for some reason.

I may have to get a larger pin for drawing.

I didn't massage the site very long after the injection. I was misled by the fact that it went very smooth and I felt nothing.

Next time I will rub it out more.


For those questioning my cycle. I originally went with a t3/clen cycle. I later added in the test due to the catabolic nature of the t3/clen.

I was not made aware of the magic of a first cycle. I guess I will just miss out on that part...or experience it anyways...we'll see.

I am running 250 2x each week for the person that asked how much I was running.

thanks to all who posted replies.

P.S.
Shoulder still sore as hell. I am relating it to the fact that I did not massage the delt afterwards and that there may have been some movement during my times of hesitation after injected before withdrawal. First time nerves I supose.

oh, and to the poster about the aspiration, no...I have never aspirated before as this was my first injection of my first cycle. and yes, the bubbles...although hardly that...were from aspirating not in the syreinge before injection. There was no blood upon aspirating or I would have done it again. the blood in question was the blood that came into the syreinge after injecting...the plunger withrdrew a bit after I released it once all test was inside...then a specklse of blood came out. I would assume that to be from any movement I may have had while the pin was inside.

 

[Furian]

quick update. so far so good. In middle of week three now. So far I shot both delts, both quads and righ calf. No problems to report. Weight up 8 lbs. No noticeable water retention, no fat gain, not much loss...but I don't expect to lose much fat until after week 4.

Pumps are huge....is this to be expected this early on? Seems like I get monster pumps now.

quick question too....I am curious as to what to expect when the test starts to "kick in". Yes I have read on it tons, but I am talking actual experiences from some of you. Since it's my first run with test e, I am just getting curious as I get closer to my 4th and 5th week.

anyway, i'll update in a week or so....

 

[JohnXXX]

Hey, I've just started to get into the whole steroid thing and have had some great gains but having problem finding a reliable source to get products. Going through a friend of a friend of this guy I know is getting old. Can anybody help???

 

[hughjorgen]

Hey, I've just started to get into the whole steroid thing and have had some great gains but having problem finding a reliable source to get products. Going through a friend of a friend of this guy I know is getting old. Can anybody help???

Never ask for a source in a post. Read the rules! What you will probably get now is emails from a few scammers who will be glad to take your money!!

If you want a source, join the board,m and read, andf learn and eventually you will find one!

 

[Furian]

Yeah, what he said. stay outta my thread with your source begging...

Pretty lame line to boot. LOL.

 

[Slayer]

Bro,,,,its not too late to take the great advice already given and turn this into a bulking cycle.

 

[Furian]

LOL. what are ya doing? Reading my mind?

I have EQ on hand, was going to use test/eq possibly later on down the road.

I am already 238 lbs. though..I dunno if I wanna get bigger...that's what keeps me from bulking.

...although, I'd probly lose alot of bf anyway since I eat very clean.

any other thoughts along this line of changing over to a bulker? I see a lot of hate for a first cycle cutter lately.