First Cycle

[p7357680]

Hi

I am about to do my first cycle ever. but i have three options

1) dianabol and anavar for 8 weeks or
2) deca durabolin for 6 weeks
3) sustanon for 10 weeks

I am 27 years old. 174cm. about 170lb. about 18% bodyfat but I look okey. I am trying to cut while maintaining my mass. I want to be about 15%. I am a typical endomorph kind of guy. I can keey my diet pretty strict. I eat brown rice, yam, oatmeal, and fruit for carbs. egg whites, checken breast for protein. brocolis and beans for veggie.I take muti viatmin and minerial suppl.
I want to try this once for my life time and go from there. I was told that the best for first timer is test enanthate or cyprionate. Please advise...

 

[Gurumaster]

Dianabol and anavar : And for 8 weeks ' NO That is not good at all'!!! Your liver will be gone after that sort of cycle.

Sustanon for 10 weeks works good for me.
W 1-10 sustanon 500 mg.

2 times at a week, for example Monday 250 mg and Thursday 250 mg.
This for your unstable blood values, because testosterone propionate is a short ester and the testosterone phenylpropionate and testosterone isocaproate will stay active for about 2-3 weeks each this is a long ester.
decanoate stays active in the body for up to a month.


But I wouldn't use it at a cut cycle.



Greetzz

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Moved to the appropriate forum.......

 

[Phantasm]

Dianabol and anavar : And for 8 weeks ' NO That is not good at all'!!! Your liver will be gone after that sort of cycle.


Greetzz

Dianabol; True --- Anavar can go that long [IMHO]

but #ell, I've gone D'bol that long too. But again... I would not advise such time for D'bol! Aboot & SC can advise better!!

Anavar is not used for mass. It used for strength gains and muscle hardness. It is low in androgens and doesn`t produce water retention.This drug considered to be very safe. Anavar is widely used by powerlifters, and many women like to use it because of its chemical structure, Anavar wont aromatize. Oxandrolone is generally regarded as the safest by both the medical community and the athletes. Anavar`s prominent affect is that of strength increases. It is very popular among women athletes because it is very low in androgens, and does not elect the degree of virilization that most others do. Even though the steroid is a 17-alpha alkylated the drug is extremely safe. It does not convert to Estrogen. Dosages 80 mg. daily for 30 days, followed by 40 mg for 60 days. The drug is actually shown to improve liver function in test groups. This drug is higly recomended for people with impared immune systems. Usually it is used as pre contest drug in combination with primobolan-depot, winstrol and deca-durabolin.

 

[GymLift]

5'6", 170 pounds, and fairly high bf%, huh?

Do you work out seriously or are you sort of just getting started and want to get in shape? Almost kind of a new years resolution, maybe?

 

[Behemoth]

You can drop down to 15% without using gear and still maintain most, if not all, of your muscle mass. I wouldn't bother using steroids to maintain muscle until you start dropping under 12% bodyfat. ECA or clen should be good enough for you at this point.

 

[shu3003]

Dont do the Dbol, you will gain mostly water weight and @ 18% BF thats not the look you want. Since your goal is gain size and lose fat, dbol wouldnt be the right choice. IMO, I would do two cycles,

Cycle 1 : Fina and SUS, then HCG and NOLVADEX (6-8 weeks)

Cycle 2: Winstrol, Ananvar, and Clen, with some Proviron

 

[Behemoth]

By the way, I wouldn't waste my first cycle on cutting, if I were you. It would be much better as a bulking cycle. So get some clen or something, and cut down to 10% or so, don't use any gear yet. Then when you are nice and lean, get ready for a big bulker. Use test, eat big, lift heavy and grow like crazy.

 

[Phantasm]

By the way, I wouldn't waste my first cycle on cutting, if I were you. It would be much better as a bulking cycle. So get some clen or something, and cut down to 10% or so, don't use any gear yet. Then when you are nice and lean, get ready for a big bulker. Use test, eat big, lift heavy and grow like crazy.

Excellent Point!

 

[solcraft]

Dont do the Dbol, you will gain mostly water weight and @ 18% BF thats not the look you want. Since your goal is gain size and lose fat, dbol wouldnt be the right choice. IMO, I would do two cycles,

Cycle 1 : Fina and SUS, then HCG and NOLVADEX (6-8 weeks)

Cycle 2: Winstrol, Ananvar, and Clen, with some Proviron

bad suggestion-for a first cycly keep it simple. dont do more than one compound, dont do fina/ tren for a first cycle. most everyone will tell you to stick to test only- sust would be OK,- but realisticly, it doesnt sound like you are physicaly ready to do a cycle.we should start with your stats complete-how many years lifting?

 

[p7357680]

firts cycle

bad suggestion-for a first cycly keep it simple. dont do more than one compound, dont do fina/ tren for a first cycle. most everyone will tell you to stick to test only- sust would be OK,- but realisticly, it doesnt sound like you are physicaly ready to do a cycle.we should start with your stats complete-how many years lifting?

I have been lifting about 3-4 years. last year I have been trying to practice nutrition...looking for the right food for me. Right now I am trying to get back my strength...lost them because of business trip. I lift 3-4 days a week. 1-2 days on and 1-2 days off. don't really like carido. just do 30-40mins bilke..approm 350-400 calories each time. I eating every 3hour. each workout time does not exceed 1 hour. otherwise I think it's wasting time.

So I guess D-bol and anarvar are NO GOOD. How about deca durabolin?
I don't want to gain water weight. I want to gain strength and mass and able to keep them off cycle. what cycle is suitable for me? alos consider a limited budget.

 

[Fender]

I agree with the posters above that you should put gear on the back burner for now and lift naturally. Post your diet. Make sure you eat plenty of protein and drink plenty of water. Eat good complex carbs like brown rice and oatmeal.
If you insist on doing gear I would suggest a test only cycle for your first. Make sure you have your post cycle therapy (pct) in place.

 

[solcraft]

sounds like you have the right mindset as far as eating on time and hitting the gym, but you should get all your education before you decide on a cycle. -however, most people are bent on a cycle for whatever reason. if this is the case with you no one onthis board with any knowledge is going to reccomend decca, or anything other than test for a first cycle. there are many reasons for this. and most will tell you to go and try for an all out bulker for your first run at it.

 

[khalnayak]

Get your bf down and then think bout running a cycle.Forget deca and orals.First cycle,test e/cyp for 10-12 weeks at 500mg ew.pct starts 2 weeks after last shot of test.