first ever steroid cycle and dont have an AI or PCT

[Therealkozmo]

Omg it's been ten minutes since i posted and no one has replied. I thought I new everything at that age too. However, I was never interested in aas until I found out the truths and my mojo was waning

 

[SultanOfSwole]

We all know the OP at this point will go to another forum, then another, and another until he finds one that approves of his "plan"

Good luck

what age did you do your first cycle?

it doesnt matter if you're younger or older steroid side effects can happen to anyone, I understand there are more risks if you're younger but there still risks. I'm sure none of the average people in society would agree with you using steroids not matter what your age but that didnt stop you from usimg them
so dnt get cheeky m8

 

[SultanOfSwole]

Here is a quick and dirty reason why: You could cause your body to stop producing testosterone during the time when it is producing the most it will ever produce.

Longer version:

Assume your natural T level is 1200 right now. You want massive gains, so you take 300mg of Test-Cyp a week, which raises your T level by around another 1200...turning you into a monstrous 2400!!! Yes, massive gains, but also massive estradiol levels...but those can be taken care of with an AI. So far, so good. However, when outside T is introduced into the body, it stops making its own T (it is expensive to make, from a biological standpoint) and if the PCT is not done right, your body shuts down its own T creation forever. Now look what you did...the shots you are taking merely raise you up to the level you were naturally! To get that massive 2400 again, you have to double the dose!

So you have a good chance of destroying all the natural awesomeness your body has all by itself for short term gains. Instead, spend the time and money getting your diet in shape. 3JS (on this forum) will help you do that for a fraction of the cost of a cycle. Once that is in line and you are exercising hard, you will see the massive changes you want. When you get older and your natural test drops, then think about AAS.

you said it yourself m8, "if pct is not done right"
so that means if pct is done correct then there is no probs

 

[ADenver]

what age did you do your first cycle?

it doesnt matter if you're younger or older steroid side effects can happen to anyone, I understand there are more risks if you're younger but there still risks. I'm sure none of the average people in society would agree with you using steroids not matter what your age but that didnt stop you from usimg them
so dnt get cheeky m8

Age: 32

That's when I did my first.

you said it yourself m8, "if pct is not done right"
so that means if pct is done correct then there is no probs

WRONG. PCT gives you the best chance at recovery, but every person is different. Recovery is not 100% age dependent or even PCT dependent.

The fact is your body, your HPTA, your mind are all still developing. Anything you do at this point is stunting that.

You've been training a whole 3 years, congrats! But that isn't that long. Learning how to train and diet properly will get you to 90% of your goals. Learning that first will only make your first cycle and any (if at all) future cycles that much better. They aren't miracle drugs.

 

[SultanOfSwole]

Age: 32

That's when I did my first.



WRONG. PCT gives you the best chance at recovery, but every person is different. Recovery is not 100% age dependent or even PCT dependent.

The fact is your body, your HPTA, your mind are all still developing. Anything you do at this point is stunting that.

You've been training a whole 3 years, congrats! But that isn't that long. Learning how to train and diet properly will get you to 90% of your goals. Learning that first will only make your first cycle and any (if at all) future cycles that much better. They aren't miracle drugs.

okay lets say i decide not to do the cycle at this age. what would i do with the gear i have on hand whihc i bought for $400. i cant just throw it

 

[ADenver]

okay lets say i decide not to do the cycle at this age. what would i do with the gear i have on hand whihc i bought for $400. i cant just throw it

While it may lose a little potency, it should still be fine in 4-5 years.

Or you could sell it to a friend, etc.... Thats a risk as well.

But in all honesty man, like some others have told you here too. Bad decisions early on have put them on a track where they have to stick themselves for the rest of their lives. And thats not a choice anymore.

In the end what you do is ultimately up to you. But learn from others who have made those choices and now deal with the consequences. Every person is different, you could do them and be fine. You could do them and not be fine too. Weigh both choices. I know its tempting. But really spend the money on a dietician/real training coach. You are at your peak right now. And in the end of it all, its only a few years to wait.

 

[China_Wall]

okay lets say i decide not to do the cycle at this age. what would i do with the gear i have on hand whihc i bought for $400. i cant just throw it

no talking about prices on here young brother... but the fact that you did pay what you say you paid for 2 vials of prop... wow... did he ever see you coming


live and learn, no other way

 

[Mr.Green]

2 bottles of Test Prop for $400 ? Give me a break Bro. You are either full of BS or got seriously burnt from your hook up.
But seriously , you are not even 20 yet. And 2 bottles is good for about 4 weeks give or take.
Do some research and read the sticky's. That's what they are there for.
Good Luck.

 

[fitguy22]

2 bottles of Test Prop for $400 ? Give me a break Bro. You are either full of BS or got seriously burnt from your hook up.
But seriously , you are not even 20 yet. And 2 bottles is good for about 4 weeks give or take.
Do some research and read the sticky's. That's what they are there for.
Good Luck.

i believe him , i got robbed like that too. my very first time as i was preparing to get into AAS a friend of mine, very good friend;apparently not, charged me 90$ per shot! 1 ml, once i got on this forums i realized he robbed me and i confronted him, got my money back and extra vials Lol

 

[Harnold]

don't use it yet is my advice. get an AI.

 

[Calibucsfan]

After visiting this site I realized sources do not know jack shit. My guy always gives me BS advice. Like he has no idea what it means to aspirate, takes no AI and gets everyone at my gym on BS cycles.

Just stick to the what you read here and do not listen to anyone in real life I swear its better that way

 

[Mr.Green]

Sources are hit and miss. A lot of them are just after your money. If you are lucky and find a good one ,hang on to em. The bad ones give the good ones a bad rap. Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of good ones but like everything,there are also a lot of bad ones.