For the millionth time, Personal Opinions!

[JMAC31]

Hey everyone, Im new to the forum, been watching from a birds eye view for a long time. Finally decided to join.
That being said...
My concern is what all the hubub is about Picking and choosing a testosterone to utilize.

My experience has brought my opinion into full perspective on all types of esters, and I havent seen a difference (pharma grade wise) in results, side effects, potency, pain, etc, from ester to ester. quicker ones yield the results faster, longer ones a little slower, but thats it. no actual difference in benefit from 250 of cypionate to 250 of Sustanon (sust) weekly (or 500 if im coming off an injury). Although I prefer sust, simply cause its the most readily available for me, when im not using my home lab.

Question time: What sells you on a certain ester, the stacking compatibility? The length of release? Which do YOU personally prefer and Why? Btw, My cycles are generally weaker and shorter than most, (not a full blown body builder, I race mx, train mx, and mountain climb, although my close gym rat friends are mostly body builders) So opinions..... Shoot!

 

[Cobra Strike]

I prefer single eaters because it is easier to keep my blood levels equal and consistant. Also post cycle therapy (pct) comes into play....I'm not running a 20 week cycle with prop because of all the pokes it takes and levels really don't biuld up on itself....also I'm not running a long ester as deconate due to the wait time from last shot to post cycle therapy (pct).....test e works perfect for me

 

[JMAC31]

I prefer single eaters because it is easier to keep my blood levels equal and consistant. Also post cycle therapy (pct) comes into play....I'm not running a 20 week cycle with prop because of all the pokes it takes and levels really don't biuld up on itself....also I'm not running a long ester as deconate due to the wait time from last shot to post cycle therapy (pct).....test e works perfect for me

Thanks for the reply Cobra Strike,

So you're just the medium ester man. Not because of results, but for convenience with your personal schedule right? I dont mind being pricked eod or etd with a 1", (dont prefer it either) but id take e over prop for soley that reason.

 

[ChrisWho?]

Test is test, it's all the same except for release time. But 250mg of E is not going to give the same kick as 250mg of test P. You have to remember that each ester has a certain molecular weight. When E is dosed at 250mg a ml, because of the ester weight I think it's 168mg total test and the rst is ester weight(give or take, I cant remember exact) Whereas say 100mg of test prop has 89mgs of test. The longer the ester is usually the less test but it's not noticable and due to the release rate and overlap you'll never notice with long esters. Just thought Id throw that out there as 250mg of X is not the same as 250mg of Y

 

[mr.squat]

can u run Sustanon (sust) for 8 weeks then prop for four weeks more then post cycle therapy (pct) in a week ?

 

[Bullseye Forever]

I prefer the longer esters myself,test cyp is my favorite and then test e next,and sustanon ive used in one of the cycles ive done,ive never run Test p just the 3 ive mentioned

 

[JAFS]

Test is test, it's all the same except for release time. But 250mg of E is not going to give the same kick as 250mg of test P. You have to remember that each ester has a certain molecular weight. When E is dosed at 250mg a ml, because of the ester weight I think it's 168mg total test and the rst is ester weight(give or take, I cant remember exact) Whereas say 100mg of test prop has 89mgs of test. The longer the ester is usually the less test but it's not noticable and due to the release rate and overlap you'll never notice with long esters. Just thought Id throw that out there as 250mg of X is not the same as 250mg of Y

Agreed. I have always run short esters, way more bang and it gets going a lot faster. In saying that, I do have to switch now as travel for work gets in the way of my cycles. LOL. But I do have to say its OK not pinning ED. I do still kickstart and will usually blast 2 weeks with a short ester while I wait for the Enan or others to clear.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Thanks for the reply Cobra Strike,

So you're just the medium ester man. Not because of results, but for convenience with your personal schedule right? I dont mind being pricked eod or etd with a 1", (dont prefer it either) but id take e over prop for soley that reason.

I think the results would be the same no matter what test I used and I could pin ed if I wanted but its just plain retarded to run a prop cycle for 20 weeks...its true that you get the kick with prop faster but like I said the levels never biuld...your not gonna get to 2200ng/dl with prop

 

[Cobra Strike]

can u run Sustanon (sust) for 8 weeks then prop for four weeks more then pct in a week ?

this would be pointless...sus needs to be ran for 12 weeks but then yes you could run prop the last 4 weeks waiting for the sus to clear so 16 week cycle there

 

[Cobra Strike]

Well JMAC... thats what the ladies say...

nice avi! and they may say that but they never complain

 

[1fortheGeeks]

I go with test e as well. Ive tried Sustanon (sust) (name brand) and didnt like it as well. Extra pinning, and even with the prop in it, I felt like I responded better to the test. I guess sometimes its just what grows on you.

 

[JMAC31]

Thanks for all the input guys, its much appreciated.

Like I said and you said, 250mg of test, (pharma grade) is always 250mg of test, however the net weight of the sum of the parts (test/esters) may be heavier to accommodate the longer esters. Most UGL's (both of the ones I've dealt with, except my private study because I up my testosterone powder dosage slightly to accommodate for estimated ester weight) are severely underdosed and noticeably so. I don't use much in a cycle for my bodyweight being a natural builder for 75% of my body, so every little bit is noticeable, and my levels range within 300 of each other on any given cycle. (usually resort to pharma when coming back from an injured knee or leg, coming back fastest is key).

To me esters don't matter all that much, Im not picky at all, plus I like mixing things up in lab class hahaha.

Basically for me its the potency of the 250 test, if I get 250 it BETTER be 250 at LEAST, and not 200 or 220.