Good beginners cycle? Help advise...

[My_Pitch27]

looking to do a cycle. ive done one in the past and got a lil bit of gyno and quit halfway through but i want to complete one...

31
175lbs
5'9"
13%bf

diet almost tuned right up. hitting weights 3-5x week hiit.

test c grape seed oil 250mg 2x (mon/thurs) week for 12 weeks
1 mg adex 3x week 12 weeks
250 iu hcg 2x week for 12 weeks

clomid 50mg 4 weeks
tamoxifen 20mg 4 weeks

there that should outline a good protocol what do u think? any adjustments? ive experienced a bit of gyno before so i want to avoid that as much as possible...

 

[Megatron28]

Have you read the Sticky Threads yet? Lots of good info on putting a cycle together.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Have you read the Sticky Threads yet? Lots of good info on putting a cycle together.

I have read the stickys and came up with this protcol, does it sound like a solid one to follow? i tweaked it a bit to enhance the ai as i have experienced a little gyno before...i just want to be extra cautious...

 

[mich29]

I have read the stickys and came up with this protcol, does it sound like a solid one to follow? i tweaked it a bit to enhance the ai as i have experienced a little gyno before...i just want to be extra cautious...

I'd suggest picking up some femara just in case of gyno

 

[My_Pitch27]

I'd suggest picking up some femara just in case of gyno

ya but is this a good outline?

 

[Megatron28]

looking to do a cycle. ive done one in the past and got a lil bit of gyno and quit halfway through but i want to complete one...

31
175lbs
5'9"
13%bf

diet almost tuned right up. hitting weights 3-5x week hiit.

test c grape seed oil 250mg 2x (mon/thurs) week for 12 weeks
1 mg adex 3x week 12 weeks
250 iu hcg 2x week for 12 weeks

clomid 50mg 4 weeks
tamoxifen 20mg 4 weeks

there that should outline a good protocol what do u think? any adjustments? ive experienced a bit of gyno before so i want to avoid that as much as possible...

Test looks good.

I wouldn't run that much adex without blood work confirming you need that much. Most guys start at .25mg every other day. You really don't want to crash your estradiol. It is about the worst feeling in the world. Run the AI up until you start PCT.

hCG needs to be run up until 2-3 days before PCT starts. So don't stop at the end of week 12.

Speaking of PCT, when will start it?

What are your pre, mid and post cycle blood work plans?

Cycle goals?

What will diet macros be?

If you are freaked out about possibly getting gyno, don't overload on the AI. Run Raloxifene or Nolva concurrently the entire cycle. This is an "insurance" policy against gyno.

 

[Teutonic]

yup

Freal on eating training and recovery

 

[Tom18]

Don't use clomid 50 mg for 4 weeks if youre cycling test only. it is not like deca or tren. clomid isnt vitamin be careful. 25 mg for 3 weeks will be enough if you ask me.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Can someone help me come up with a good cycle plan?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Listen most of us or at least myself refrain from just putting the whole cycle together because if I do then you won't really have a full understanding of what and why.

WE can help and advise but you need to more fully understand the steroid profiles. About Estrogen and prolactin. Ya see even though it is important to be on top of a Gyno issue , you need to know all of the other side effects of high and low estrogen. If you don't understand then you will not have a clue as to what is going on in reference to your E2. This is just one aspect I talk of.

So read up more , look at the steroid profile (s) read up on what Arimidex is and does. See more cycle suggestions and get a feel for the why's of doing what is suggested.

Example of what you are not aware of and with study and more reading here you would know. 1 mg of Arimidex 3 times a week for only 500 - 600mgs of Test a week will CRASH your E2. You should be aware of what that will do. So you prob can't do it that way?? but someone can and might help there. Get your BW and we will see. OK

So see the suggested beginners cycle and go from there. Read and come baclk and we'll be here with more help. Good Luck

 

[Megatron28]

Can someone help me come up with a good cycle plan?

Did you see post #6? I was trying to help you without spoon feeding you. Why not respond to that post?

 

[My_Pitch27]

Test looks good.

I wouldn't run that much adex without blood work confirming you need that much. Most guys start at .25mg every other day. You really don't want to crash your estradiol. It is about the worst feeling in the world. Run the AI up until you start PCT.

hCG needs to be run up until 2-3 days before PCT starts. So don't stop at the end of week 12.

Speaking of PCT, when will start it?

What are your pre, mid and post cycle blood work plans?

Cycle goals?

What will diet macros be?

If you are freaked out about possibly getting gyno, don't overload on the AI. Run Raloxifene or Nolva concurrently the entire cycle. This is an "insurance" policy against gyno.

Thanks for the great advice but i want to have more adex on hand just in case and to run it up until pct time. pct will be 2 weeks after last pin. i could ralox but id rather not put more meds in the mix and keep it as simple as possible. i going with a good company so everything will be legit from a pharmacy. my food is getting really dialed in lots of chicken and broccoli.. lol... not tasty but needed.

here is my final made up cycle, please all advise and approve before i submit my credit card and pay for this...im getting labs done prior, 5 weeks in and 2 weeks after pct ends

test c grapeseed oil 250mg 2x week for 10 weeks monday moring and thursday evening
1mg adex 2x week monday and thursday eveningfor 12 weeks, if more needed based on bloodwork
will do
hcg 325iu 3x week monday, wednesday and saturdayfor 12 weeks

pct

clomid 25mg for 3 weeks 1 tab daily
tamoxifen 20mg for 3 weeks 1 tab daily

how am i looking now all? more solid plan and up to date with a beginner's cycle. nice and clean.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Listen most of us or at least myself refrain from just putting the whole cycle together because if I do then you won't really have a full understanding of what and why.

WE can help and advise but you need to more fully understand the steroid profiles. About Estrogen and prolactin. Ya see even though it is important to be on top of a Gyno issue , you need to know all of the other side effects of high and low estrogen. If you don't understand then you will not have a clue as to what is going on in reference to your E2. This is just one aspect I talk of.

So read up more , look at the steroid profile (s) read up on what Arimidex is and does. See more cycle suggestions and get a feel for the why's of doing what is suggested.

Example of what you are not aware of and with study and more reading here you would know. 1 mg of Arimidex 3 times a week for only 500 - 600mgs of Test a week will CRASH your E2. You should be aware of what that will do. So you prob can't do it that way?? but someone can and might help there. Get your BW and we will see. OK

So see the suggested beginners cycle and go from there. Read and come baclk and we'll be here with more help. Good Luck

Thanks for your input, i appreciate u taking the time to respond to my post.