Halodrol 50- The real deal

mickyfinn

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I have been training for 23 years and with the exception of two cycles of deca and anavar in 1989 I have been natural. When prohormones came out I stayed away, mainly because I am losing some hair and most of the early prohormones were androgenic DHT converted compounds. Then came M-OHN that was great for cutting and no hair loss. I had thought that the last ban meant that effective prohormones would never be available until Halodrol 50.

I just came off a month cycle of Halodrol and Prostanozol and oh my! When I started the cycle my BF% was about 9%, I ate clean during the cycle and gained 8lbs of lean body weight. My lifts increased dramatically, squat went from 4 sets of 12 at 315lbs to 4 of 12 at 350lbs, Bench, dumbells increased from 85lbs to 95lbs for 4 sets of 10, barbell bench went from 225lbs for 4 sets of 10 to 245lbs for 4 sets of 10. Just some of the highlights, all of my other lifts increased too. Outstanding pumps too.

Vascularity, and aerobic endurance increased also. Given the increase in aerobic capacity I think that using Halodrol as a cutter would work well.

Side effects , as I mentioned I have thin hair, no additional hair loss. No acne. No depression. No unreasonable agression outside of the gym. No gonadal shrinkage, No gyno, No lethargy.

One word of caution. They recommend taking Novedex XT at the start of the 3rd week. I started at the end of the 3rd week. I did notice some water retention during the 3rd week , but the Novedex took care of that in a few days. The next time I will start Novedex XT at the start of the third week.

I have been off for a week now, still taking Novedex XT, and my strength continues to increase.

This stuff is the best I have ever taken. No sides, great results. That is the good news.

Now the bad news. The original formula is what you want, since the Washington Post article Gaspari has been asked to change the formula. They did and it does not work as well, plus there are some sides with the new formula. They are not producing the old formula anymore, and it is hard to find.

I was lucky. I live 2 hours from Gaspari headquarters in NJ. My supplement store has a good relationship with the co. and they were able to obtain 120 boxes of the old formula. I have stockpiled 5 boxes. My supplement store has sold all but 10 boxes in one month and all users are reporting fantastic gains.

The continued bashing of this product on this board and others baffles me, to bad for those of you that missed out on the original batch. I bought mine for $69 per box, I have seen for sale on e-bay for over $100.

Stats:
height: 5'6
weight: 170lbs to 200lbs(currently 180lbs)
body fat%: 8-10(currently 10%)
age: 38
years training : 23
education: BS Exercise Physiology, The Pennsylvania State University, MBA, St. Joseph's University.
 
Strong and shapely may still have some, not sure. I know Bob had got a few in even after the article. Just so everyone knows, this stuff has never been illegal, i beleive Gaspari is changing/changed the formula just to get away from the scrutiny of the articly. Please correct me if any of my info is wrong.
 
You are correct they changed the formula because of the article. My supplement store knows the Gaspari's very well and tells me the gov specifically told them what they wanted them to change about the original formula.

You mention Bob. Are you referring to Bob at Body Zone?
 
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Actually I read a post from Bruce Kneller on Bodybuilding.com, the guy who helped desgin Halodrol for Gaspari, and he said there is no difference between the old and new. But who knows
 
This Is What Is In Halodrol-50

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Rich gave me the 'green light' to reveal what is in it. So I am and then I am done answering questions. Do your own research after this.


Halodrol 50 = 4-chlorodehydromethylandrost-4-ene-3,17b-diol; 50mg per tablet.


Happy now? It's a derivative of Oral Turinabol (the 3 hydroxyl variant).

It is halogenated like the box reads (4-chloro).

It is dehydrogenated (DB's at 1 and 4).

It is polyhydroxylated (hydroxyls at 3 and 17b)

It is methylated (C17a).

The description on the box was DEAD on correct friend, see?

It's effects are very similar and it's side effects very similar to Oral Turinabol.

I clipped this off the net about OT (it is a good comparator to what you can expect from H-50l I did not write this but I did edit some of it) -

Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's.

OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reliable source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or
chlordehydromethyltestosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposition, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dosages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly distinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is 17-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver function be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.


There you have it. It is very similar to OT And if any idiot says it "needs to be converted to be effective" they are talking out there ass. Yeah, a 3-ketone is needed (as is a 17b hydroxyl) to bind to the AR well but because it is a methylated compound and is resistant to metabolization, this is not an issue.

Remember, 1-AD was a 3,17b diol and it worked well. So did 4-AD and Methyl-4AD.


H-50 is a good, clean, effective compound.

I am done posting, this has given me a headache.


BK
 
mickyfinn said:
You are correct they changed the formula because of the article. My supplement store knows the Gaspari's very well and tells me the gov specifically told them what they wanted them to change about the original formula.

You mention Bob. Are you referring to Bob at Body Zone?


Bob Bonham at Strong and Shapely in Rutherford.
 
Raze, that Bruce Knellar post was prior to the Washington Post article. Notice that his post does not mention old formula or new.

The Washington Post article made Gaspari uneasy and they stopped producing Halodrol. They then made a statement that it would only be available to good customers, meaning they would get rid of the remaining boxes that way.

The formula has changed due to this pressure. Whether the new formula is as good we do not know. Early feedback is that it does not. Of course , why would it work as well, if it did they would have made it that way in the first place to avoid government pressure.

Read the Bruce Knellar post carefully there is no reference to old formula or new.

Once again guys, if you can get the old formula you are in luck.
 
Originally Posted by B knel ler
There is no difference between the two except for the ink on the boxes, one has a different lot number and exp date and the other difference is the IUPAC chemical naming convention on the new box.

Old batch vs New batch is totally uncool and not-PC. It is batchism and discriminates against people of the "new batch".

Where you guys get your information from and why people feel the overwhelming need to outright lie is beyond me.

But it is your website so feel free to call it new batch, old batch, left batch, right batch, up batch, down batch. Dr. Seuss would be proud (and so fargin' hyooge!) over this H-50 nonsense!

How many people wanna bet that people with ulterior motives say "well I used the 'old batch' and gained 375 pounds of muscle but used the new batch and didn't gain anything and my liver and kidneys fell out of my ******* into the crapper and my balls shrunk up into my abdomen and now I am left with empty sack syndrome"?

There is ZERO reformulation. None. The delay was because Gaspari REALLY did stop making the product as they said they did (despite Amy Shipley's bullshit assertation to the contrary from what is likely a forged e-mail forwarded to her) and when Rich decided to make it again, there was a 4 weeks lag period. There is no "reformulation" or "new and improved". It's the same old, same old.

Anyone telling you different is retarded or selling a competitor's product (or possibly both)!


BK
 
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