Hey guys, so I def have some testicular atrophy, Im in wk5 of my 10wk cycle and have order 3000iu's of hcg, but by the time it gets here ill prob only have 3wks lefts on cycle. What is the most effective way to take this Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? I think i may have read somewhere that some people take 1500iu's on the day of their last inj then another 1500 a week later, has anyone heard of this?
HCG Dosing
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pipes29
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Lot's of different opinions here....What has worked for me in the past is wait about a week after you last injection so there is still some AAS that hasn't completely cleared and go 1500iu-2000iu every 3 days for 5 injections. I start Nolva20mg/day and clomid50mg/day the same day as Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and keep them running for 4 weeks.
Hope this helps.
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Ozzy27
Olympian Bodybuilder
You will desensitize your leydig cells that secrete testosterone.
Read this.............
HCG - Unraveled - Primordial Performance Discussion Forums
Im kinda freaked out now, so when i get my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) i will have 3wks left on my cycle, i can order more now, but now am concerned about the higher dosage. Also, the article states that higher dosages will increase my estrogen levels, but also informs me not to start me post cycle therapy (pct) (nolva) with hcg, ok...i am gyno prone and if i am not on my post cycle therapy (pct) after my cycle, but am on a high dose of hcg, i will surely develop a bad case of gyno...what to do? Should i beign using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 250iu 2x week for my last three weeks, then maybe go for 2 additional shots of 1000iu, one for each week to follow the end of my cycle, I could also take letro with this to prevent the estrogen build up, right? I need some suggestions!!
pipes29
New member
HeHammer the worst part about this is the more you research it the more confused you will be. There are so many freaking studies out there. I read about mine in William Llwewllyn's book Anabolics which is based on a study by Dr Michael Scally. His post cycle therapy (pct) regiment calls for 2500iu every other day for 16 days. Another dude Dave Palumbo who is well respected for his knowledge in this area calls for something like 2000iu every 3 days for 5 injections. When I first started I researched this and took a little from both to make my own post cycle therapy (pct). It works for me so I keep doing it. I know guys use it on cycle, guys who use it post cycle therapy (pct), guys who don't use it at all, guys who use it only a couple of weeks during the cycle, guys who use it early in the cycle break and use it again late in the cycle, and it seems to work for them to so take from it what you will.
cherigo18cdz
Fit to Fight
Go to Dr.Crisler's website....he has a good Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) recommendation
All Things Male - Center for Men's Health
All Things Male - Center for Men's Health
cherigo18cdz
Fit to Fight
Read the publication in the link above ....iirc he recommends no more than 500iu at any one time
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Originally Posted by big7man
Thanks.. another question... Michael88 also suggested weeks 11-13 500IU 3x per week.
Which dosing cycle do you think would be more effective?.. My thoughts are that by week 4 your testes are probably atrophyed.. will starting at week 4 500iu every 7 days be effective enough, or will it be too late with too small a dosage (500IU E7D after they have atrophyed already)?? Thanks again!
"500iu 3x per week is too frequent for long-term use. The leydigs cells will quickly degrade with this kind of frequency. E5D is ideal for 250iu… or E7D for 500iu (larger dose for those who have waited too long to use hCG).
Testes are still fairly responsive after 4 weeks, so you will respond to 500iu just fine. The E7D day protocol will allow the leydigs to remain sensitive. " - Primordial
Primordial knows his S***, do what he advised me!.. this is for weeks 4-12.. check out my post entitled "Limited Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), how to run if at all".. to see full conversation.
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Originally Posted by big7man
Thanks.. another question... Michael88 also suggested weeks 11-13 500IU 3x per week.
Which dosing cycle do you think would be more effective?.. My thoughts are that by week 4 your testes are probably atrophyed.. will starting at week 4 500iu every 7 days be effective enough, or will it be too late with too small a dosage (500IU E7D after they have atrophyed already)?? Thanks again!
"500iu 3x per week is too frequent for long-term use. The leydigs cells will quickly degrade with this kind of frequency. E5D is ideal for 250iu… or E7D for 500iu (larger dose for those who have waited too long to use hCG).
Testes are still fairly responsive after 4 weeks, so you will respond to 500iu just fine. The E7D day protocol will allow the leydigs to remain sensitive. " - Primordial
Primordial knows his S***, do what he advised me!.. this is for weeks 4-12.. check out my post entitled "Limited Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), how to run if at all".. to see full conversation.
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cherigo18cdz
Fit to Fight
Since you are so far into the cycle I would probably cut it short (make it an 8 week cycle). This will make it easier to recover your HPTA during regular post cycle therapy (pct). Save your HCG for the next cycle and maybe get more. I wouldn't try to use all the HCG (3000 units) in the last 3 weeks.
I used the mega dose at the end of my cycle once and feel that was the cause of my gyno. Next time I'm running it at lower dose throughout.
cherigo18cdz
Fit to Fight
It;s been years ago but IIRC it was 2500iu at a time....i had 5000 iu vials and split it....thatsall i remember......no anti-e used as i had never been gyno prone before.....i started nolva but it didnt really help.....eventually had surgery...small lumps nothing major
