hello from the uk, help and advice from you would be great.

al4n wil5on

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I've been all over the internet, and this forum seems to be the most, knowledgable, and user friendly in terms of good feed back and advice given

I will (I would like to) in December under take my first ever steroid cycle, winstrol oral for four weeks with Equipose......oral, because I'm not a huge fan of needles, so ive decided to minimise that for me

I've not yet done any of this yet.

My post cycle therapy (pct) planned will be clomid.




I am asking for any help or advice, I would like this to be successful for me, and most of all SAFE

I am 5,11...13 stone 11 pounds, about 11% body fat
And I've just turned 31

Please over me any advice possible.

I would very grateful, I'm sure there are many previous threads, but because I'm particular, I'd like hopefully direct answers or advice to my individual needs

Many thanks in advance, and I hope your all well.

Alan
 
Hi Al4n, welcome to the site!

How long have you been training?

The oral winstrol with some EQ tossed into the mix is a horrible cycle. We will help you put something much better together.
 
Hi thanks for the reply.

I've been training since I was around 20.

I'm an ex royal marine.

I do cardio about four times a week, mixed ie swim, run, bike and rugby

My work outs consist of mass and endurance

Ie, low reps heavy drop sets to low weight high reps

I do a lot of super sets and drop sets with my workouts, but for the first tme in my life, id lime to take that next step to increase my mass and gain more bulk

The sport I play on a good level is rugby if this helps.

May i add, in Feb i will be goin away to Thailand for three weeks, is there anything I can do to help me keep gains after my cycle, as for three weeks my training will be minimal, I will train there but at a much less instensity

Thank you in advance

Alan
 
I will add, the type of training I do, is similar to a guy called Greg plitt, this type of training suits my needs and also my own ethos to training, ie the intensity of it

My diet is good, I always taper of my carbs at the end of the day, my protein supplements are good as well.
 
Alan

Let me first try to explain why oral winnie and EQ is a bad choice for a first cycle.

You are not including testosterone,by taking the winnie and EQ you will be shutting your natural testosterone production down meaning your body won't be making any. Many things are affected by this but the major one being for us men, your tool won't work!

Winstrol and EQ both have their uses, a first cycle should be basic and low dose. You will make massive gains during your first cycle if you are eating and training right. Save these compounds for future cycles. EQ takes a long time to kick in also. Winstrol will wreak havoc on your joints and a guy as active as yourself is going to feel the impact of this.

Look into just using testosterone for your first run. You didn't mention when in February you will be traveling. I'm assuming you want to run the cycle and recover from it prior to taking off. The only possibility I see within those constraints would be to run a fast acting test, in the system quick and out just as quick.

PCT (post cycle therapy) is what we do at the completion of a steroid course to jump start our body into making it's own testosterone again and hence maintaining as much of the gains made during the cycle as possible. The longer your body takes to start back up making testosterone the more muscle you will lose.

Check this sticky out for your PCT info:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html

Some info on anti estrogens also: ( these are important in case of estrogen issues with can result in gyno aka bitch tits)

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/93867-awesome-anti-e-post.html

As for your cycle, here is one suggestion that may work before your trip

Week 1-8 testosterone propionate...150mg injected every other day

I'm sure the guys will chime in with their ideas
 
when you include the 4 weeks of PCT that would be a total of 12-13 weeks total time needed to run the cycle and then recover from it.
 
Hi, may I just say, I'm very very grateful for your feed back and you taking the time to explain that for me

I will take a look at those threads, and also look into what you have suggested, as I am here for advice, and I'm will to apply 100% any advice given for knowledgable people such as your self

Many thanks again

Alan
 
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