Help me incorporate Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in my cycle!

[shainesboostin]

Help me incorporate HCG in my cycle!

Cant decide if I should run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout, or just maybe the last 2 weeks of cycle and a week into the time between cycle and pct...HELP! Dont wanna start this cycle untill I have it all figured out!




Cycle:

weeks 1-10
Tren E @ 400mg

weeks 1-12
Test E @ 500mg

weeks 1-16
Arimidex .5mg EOD


PCT:

Weeks 16-20
Nolva 40-40-20-20

 

[Cobra Strike]

do you want your testicles to shut down???

 

[Cobra Strike]

and you should run your test at 300 and your tren at 4 or 500

 

[JWS77]

haha two good posts cobra. He just saved you 2,400mg of test enth that would have been insignificant at 500mg EW when you have tren e in your cycle.

 

[jstarr37]

damn i wish i could get some tren e

 

[Cobra Strike]

damn i wish i could get some tren e

you have been a member on here since 2007 and you dont have a source that can get your tren e???

 

[JWS77]

you have been a member on here since 2007 and you dont have a source that can get your tren e???

137 posts in 4yrs...

 

[shainesboostin]

and you should run your test at 300 and your tren at 4 or 500

What the Test so low? I have ran 2 cycles at 500mg and people give me shit and say bump it up! And for Tren, same thing...well I know its pretty harsh especially with the longer ester so I thought even 400mg was pushing it..

 

[Cobra Strike]

What the Test so low? I have ran 2 cycles at 500mg and people give me shit and say bump it up! And for Tren, same thing...well I know its pretty harsh especially with the longer ester so I thought even 400mg was pushing it..

because tren and test compete for the same receptor...the tren is going to win...so pretty much any amount of test more than the amount of tren will basically be wasted...also you will see less sides running the tren higher then the test.

yes this is probably new info to you but this is actually the best way

 

[JWS77]

What the Test so low? I have ran 2 cycles at 500mg and people give me shit and say bump it up! And for Tren, same thing...well I know its pretty harsh especially with the longer ester so I thought even 400mg was pushing it..

The two will fight for a spot at the receptors, the tren will win. Yes 500mg EW of test is good, when used alone.

 

[UserAt204]

All good info just keep in mind that some people do have to go a little higher on the test. Most will actually have less sides with better gains but for some the libido starts lacking. You basically want your test at just enough to keep libido up, which tren should do but doesn't for the majority.

Run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the entire cycle. A blast is needed also but only doing a blast makes no sense. In post cycle therapy (pct) your body is basically in a battle to normalize test levels, reach homeostasis, and regain hormonal balance. Why add to that fight when you could run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the whole time and attempt to make things smoother.

 

[shainesboostin]

The two will fight for a spot at the receptors, the tren will win. Yes 500mg EW of test is good, when used alone.

Hmm, so maybe I should stack something else with Test?

 

[JWS77]

Hmm, so maybe I should stack something else with Test?

First answer these questions:

-Age
-Training history
-Previous cycles
-Height & weight
-bf%
-Diet
-Goals (bulk/cut/strength)
-Concerns (hairloss, limpdick, bloat)
-Limitations (physically, mentally, biologically)
-Proposed cycle (gear, dosages, length, pct, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), AI)

 

[shainesboostin]

First answer these questions:

-Age
-Training history
-Previous cycles
-Height & weight
-bf%
-Diet
-Goals (bulk/cut/strength)
-Concerns (hairloss, limpdick, bloat)
-Limitations (physically, mentally, biologically)
-Proposed cycle (gear, dosages, length, post cycle therapy (pct), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), AI)

Lifting 5-6 Years. I am a type 1 diabetic.
Only done test E at 500mg for 10 weeks.
BF=sub 8%
Diet, just hit 3500 cals, 300 grams of pro, carbs very day to day.
Want to get to 210 and stay sub 10%bf
Concerns=my post cycle therapy (pct) never has worked.


I planned on this:

weeks 1-12
Test e-400mg

weeks 1-8
Tren e 400mg

Weeks 1-13
Arimidex .5mg EOD and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu weekly

post cycle therapy (pct)

Weeks 14-18
Nolva 40-40-20-20

 

[JWS77]

Lifting 5-6 Years. I am a type 1 diabetic.
Only done test E at 500mg for 10 weeks.
BF=sub 8%
Diet, just hit 3500 cals, 300 grams of pro, carbs very day to day.
Want to get to 210 and stay sub 10%bf
Concerns=my PCT never has worked.


I planned on this:

weeks 1-12
Test e-400mg

weeks 1-8
Tren e 400mg

Weeks 1-13
Arimidex .5mg EOD and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu weekly

PCT

Weeks 14-18
Nolva 40-40-20-20

8wks on tren won't work as well as 12wks IMO. Run both compounds concurrent for 12wks, but raise your tren to 500mg, and you could try lowering your test to 300mg (androgen receptors issue), that would lower estro sides as tren is non-aromatizing and you wouldn't be 'wasting' the test that would just be floating around. Also try blasting your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) thru to end of pct 500iu ED for 10days, then 4 days later start pct, don't stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at last pin...that would help alot in post cycle therapy (pct). With tren I think nolva is not sufficient. I would do clomid 100mg ED for 30 days, or clomid 50mg ED for 30 days w/ nolva 40/40/20/20.

 

[JWS77]

You know what, forget that. This is cycle #2 for you. Just try test at 500mg EW with a clen cycle. Unless you got your heart set on tren, then run it more than 8wks anyway. Sorry I overlooked the fact this is second cycle. Your responsiveness to anything anabolic at this point is still choice, not really a huge need for you to run tren which is 5 times more anabolic than test. Then again, you are 8%bf?? you don't need tren lol. You could prob get away with just test bro, and a small dbol kick and get your goals easily.

 

[shainesboostin]

You know what, forget that. This is cycle #2 for you. Just try test at 500mg EW with a clen cycle. Unless you got your heart set on tren, then run it more than 8wks anyway. Sorry I overlooked the fact this is second cycle. Your responsiveness to anything anabolic at this point is still choice, not really a huge need for you to run tren which is 5 times more anabolic than test. Then again, you are 8%bf?? you don't need tren lol. You could prob get away with just test bro, and a small dbol kick and get your goals easily.

Sorry, This is my 3rd cycle, I did 2 cycles of Test E @ 500mg for 10 weeks. Can you explain why you lower the Test while on Tren in a bit more detail? Also, what if instead of using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout, you just blast it at the end of cycle, and leading up to PCT? Lol, and just because I am low BF, I think Tren would be good because of that! I should look shredded! I mean, this cycle I am commiting to BULK, no more worrying about getting "fat" I am eating 4k calories daily no matter what!

 

[shainesboostin]

Here is a recent pic, I have litterally lost 12LBS in 3 weeks coming of my last Test Cycle...

 

[JWS77]

Sorry, This is my 3rd cycle, I did 2 cycles of Test E @ 500mg for 10 weeks. Can you explain why you lower the Test while on Tren in a bit more detail? Also, what if instead of using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout, you just blast it at the end of cycle, and leading up to PCT? Lol, and just because I am low BF, I think Tren would be good because of that! I should look shredded! I mean, this cycle I am commiting to BULK, no more worrying about getting "fat" I am eating 4k calories daily no matter what!

Tren is quicker to attach to androgen receptors than test. Therefore any amount of test over tren will literally be wasted. Lowering test below tren will lower sides as well. On the flipside to this trick, if you stack deca with test...because deca is slower to attach to AR than test, you lower the deca dose below test. (There's like 9 threads on page 1 that explain this). You could just blast, but tren is mean, it will shut you down hard, it is one of the most anabolic/androgenic compound out there. I wouldn't advise not using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on-cycle...but if you must (due to supply) blast it. Money shouldn't be an issue when running gear tho.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Here is a recent pic, I have litterally lost 12LBS in 3 weeks coming of my last Test Cycle...

whats up with the wheels bra? you hitting those?