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rocky2junior

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hey everyone new to site need some help
im 23 yrs old been training since i can remeber made loads of gains all natural but slowed way down lately
i cant inject!!!!!! ive read loads about not using orals and test only cycles to start but ive got a major phobia of injections need some advice what to do should i use prohormones or are orals ok if done safely ie anavar only cycles...money aint much of a problem so dnt worry about costs..is primo ok to use as a base? help me please :)
 
..oral only cycle s are a no no .
If money ain t a problem find a nurse and have her do your shot s dudes....or is phobia of any shots ?
 
ive read some blogs of people doing anavar only cycles for 6 weeks..are they just ignorant then? they seem pretty happy with muscle hardness and strength gains..appreciate everyones advice by the way thanks :)
 
Var is to pricy and the gains aren't as great $ for lb of muscle as other AAS. If your going to cross over to the dark side- your gonna have to inject. Maybe you should just stick to PH's
 
looked into ph got anabolics ed 9 by william llewellyn and looked into havoc..in book says havoc is 17aa and is liver toxic which i thought is one the main reason oral cycles are generally a no no..so how are ph safer than oral only cycles? i dnt understand that anyone clarify for me? cheers :)
 
Prohormones have their side effects just like AAS. That's why many have been banned over the years. They are just different derivitives of orals. Are you taking the standard stuff like creatine, Arginine etc.?
 
rocky2junior said:
looked into ph got anabolics ed 9 by william llewellyn and looked into havoc..in book says havoc is 17aa and is liver toxic which i thought is one the main reason oral cycles are generally a no no..so how are ph safer than oral only cycles? i dnt understand that anyone clarify for me? cheers :)
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do not do prohormones and do not cycle orals .
wait until you are ready to do injectable steroids. if you are not dedicated enough to inject then your not dedicated enough to eat/train/rest properly for a cycle.
 
methos said:
Prohormones have their side effects just like AAS. That's why many have been banned over the years. They are just different derivitives of orals. Are you taking the standard stuff like creatine, Arginine etc.?
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yeh taking arginine, creatine, hmb, beta alanine, bcaa, trib, horny goat weed, l glutamine..the list goes on haha just want to take it to the next level the only thing stopping me taking steroids is the fact of needle phobia! :(
 
DADAWG said:
do not do prohormones and do not cycle orals .
wait until you are ready to do injectable steroids. if you are not dedicated enough to inject then your not dedicated enough to eat/train/rest properly for a cycle.
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i am dedicated to everything its just a phobia ive made good gains natty but just want to take it to the next level..just trying to figure out my options dude
 
rocky2junior said:
i am dedicated to everything its just a phobia ive made good gains natty but just want to take it to the next level..just trying to figure out my options dude
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if your not a grown man then dont consider steroids .grown me overcome their phobais and they dont need mommys help to do it.
you can think im mean if you want but im just telling the truth and not sugar coating it.my advice is for your own good and im looking out for your health.
 
The first shot is always the hardest. I thought I was going to feint when I gave myself my first one but after the Test starts kicking in and such you will be ready and excited for the next shot. Or I get that way at least.
 
I wouldn't bother with prohormones. I started with those and got some noticeable gains but it only left me wanting more. I eventually started my first cycle and it was 100 times better. My workout intensity went through the roof. My biggest sides were back acne but it is totally worth it. Have someone else administer your first shot or every shot for that matter. Eventually after you see some bug gains, that phobia wont even cross your mind. Just go for it bro!
 
Gymrat2010 said:
I wouldn't bother with prohormones. I started with those and got some noticeable gains but it only left me wanting more. I eventually started my first cycle and it was 100 times better. My workout intensity went through the roof. My biggest sides were back acne but it is totally worth it. Have someone else administer your first shot or every shot for that matter. Eventually after you see some bug gains, that phobia wont even cross your mind. Just go for it bro!
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thanks man i will try to pluck up the courage for that first shot like everyone says to..hopefully the gains will outweigh the nervs!!
 
haha.. injection phobia huh??

ill tell u brother, it hurt MUCH more when someone else gives u an injection.. i dont even feel my injections anymore.. but iv done 10 weeks of ed injections as a cycle before...

get the sand outta ur vagina and learn to inject urself.. man up
 
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