Help. The pain is unreal

[beachlean]

I just started running my first cycle on Monday. And I am going to try and keep this short as I am using my phone right now. On Monday I dosed test e 250 1ml and test prop 100 1ml in my right cheek. Weds test prop left quad. This morning (Thursday) test e right quad. I feel slightly sore on my left quad but my right cheek and right quad are experience rediculous pain and tightness. I am using a 1 1/2 inch needle. 20 gouge I think (corrected, they are 22) and brand new needles every time. I am thinking it is the test e since where I have dosed and where the pain is substantial. But I can't walk without a hell of a limp. Btw, I have been warming the test under warm water to thin it up a bit. The plan was test e Monday and Thursday and test prop every other day. I have never heard of test being this bad. Your thoughts are appreciated.

 

[beachlean]

By the way my gear is kalpha which I heard decent things about. And after doing a bit of google searching I have narrowed it down. 1. Bad gear 2. Virgin muscles 3. Not warming it up enough 4. Injecting too quickly, I am dosing 1ml in about 1-2seconds. I really hope I didn't get ahit gear my first time, I will be pissed.

 

[mlupi319]

you pin with a 20 guage needle?...seriously?

 

[noway55]

you pin with a 20 guage needle?...seriously?

That's almost exactly what I thought, lol

 

[beachlean]

you pin with a 20 guage needle?...seriously?

Sorry it's a 22 typo I didn't catch. Thought it was a 22-23 but it is 22

 

[mlupi319]

Use a 23 or 25 guage... Never heard of anyone using larger than a 23 guage so there's that, plus pinning in a virgin muscle is always going to hurt...just relax and pin with a smaller bore needle (bigger number) you'll be fine.

 

[Zeek]

Many guys are extremely sensitive to prop as well. If the pain is too much forget the prop and just go long estered test. You may very well be one of those guys who is very sensitive to it.

 

[beachlean]

Many guys are extremely sensitive to prop as well. If the pain is too much forget the prop and just go long estered test. You may very well be one of those guys who is very sensitive to it.

I thought that was it a first too. But I did prop in my left quad alone yesterday and e in my right quad today. Left quad is ok, right quad is about completely locked and right gleut is about 40% better than it was. Gleut was test e and prop Monday. It was a terrible idea haha... Sitting and walking are almost unbearable. Not trying to sound like a bitch, just a bit freaked out really.

 

[thades]

Using Prop in my cycle right now for the first time, first few pins hurt pretty bad, but after a few go rounds of each muscle I am pretty much good to go, very little pain. Just give it some time. Like Zeek said though, may just be one of the guys that reacts poorly to prop, but you only know if you give it a fair chance.

 

[Die$eL~Man]

20 guage ? Damnnnnnn...

 

[Ageek]

It shouldn't take 1-2 seconds..... Lol it takes me like 20-25 secs at least for 2ml of test e. I use 25 g for pinning, 23 g for drawing.

 

[brother bundy]

20 guage plus prop its going to hurt bro

 

[TitaniumDog]

My kalpha test e makes my thighs feel like I was in a muay Thai fight for 2-3 days after.
I use a 23 gauge and take 30-60 sec to inject. Could just be kalpha, Idk cuz this is my 1st cycle too.

 

[Fieldsy]

Yeah, the test could just be prone to a dick load of pip. Obviously it will work, just gotta stick through it!

 

[unknown21]

22g is way to big bro. Plus prop is painful no matter what to some people. i cant ever pin quads to much pip for me.

 

[fancyhuh101]

maybe something is up with your gear , alot of people especialy on their first cycle get mad pain from prop , pain usualy lasts about 3-4 days , but just the other day there was a post on here of some guy using prop on his first cycle and complaining it felt like a gunshot

 

[fliedlice]

it could be anything really.. your virgin muscles and the fact that you may not be the smoothest pinner yet.. prop tends to hurt more and you're injecting an additional ml of test e.. 22' gauge.. injecting a lil too fast..
i'd prob just change to a 23 or 25g needle, inject slower, get some advil gel caps and just grind it out lol.. my 2 cents..

 

[Cbrooks1]

Well i dont think anyone is faking kalpa pharm, and i know kalpa is g2g. im on my second cycle right now, first was also kalpa test e. I get zero pip "now" and i also pin 22g. Its your virgin muscles or unsteady hand, i remember my first pin in new sites last time would result in a very bad pip, im talkin a knot the size of a baseball and it was VERY painful. Give it time, it will subside. Goodluck!

 

[TitaniumDog]

Then it HAS to be virgin muscles. Ive been giving sub q and im injections for years, just now started doing myself so my had is steady.

 

[1989transam]

It def sounds like its just virgin muscle. Im still having the same issue 4 weeks in but its def getting better now. I tried warming up the vial with water but found that it doesnt warm up the gear as much. Hair dryer works way better for me. I also starting injecting EXTREMELY slow and that seemed to help as well. Give those a try and good luck!