Hey guys, new here, contemplating an Androstenedione cycle

[johnnnny]

Its oral, so I don't need any advice on injecting it (unless it makes a huge difference in results- which I don't care about needles much).

I was thinking of those baseball players, specifically Mark McGwire. He got huge on it.

So I think I got a connect on the andro (from a pot dealer who lives a couples houses down). Says Ill put on like 40 pounds of ripped muscle in like 5 months on it if I work out.

I don't know if he is just blowing his pot smoke up his ass.

So how many milligrams of androstenedione do I need to mae myself into the hulk? And for how long? I know I need eat like a hundred or two gram of protein. But then I read some cool shit about Mike Mentzer who was say you only need 600 calories of protein to build a pound of muscle. I was like, hmm I don't know about that. But turns out its true, that muscle is mainly water.

So it leads to my conundrum while I am on an intense androstenedione cycle how much more protein do I need to make the scaffolding of the muscle that will just be filled with water?

Ok, Ill stop now. Any help I can need and I don't need anyone bashing me for not knowing. You can just kill a kitten if you want to reply in this thread as a turd. And yes, my thread, I make the rules. No kitten-killing-turds need reply

 

[noobmuscle]

Welcome to Ology my friend.

It is apparent in reading your post that you have not taken the time to read any of the required and suggested reading prior to posting your question.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/614947-first-cycle-pct.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/156919-im-ready-gear-check-list.html

What do you mean when you say, "If I start working out"? Your looking at gear and you don't work out yet?! What are your stats, weight lifting history, etc...

What does your current diet look like? What are your macro nutrients? 600 calories of protein is 150 grams a day.

 

[grind4it]

LMAO! Yea, your gonna look like the Hulk. Dude, you need to research. You are so far off at this point the only results you are going to see are the results of not know what the fuck you are doing.
Your pot deal is probobly laughing his ass off.

 

[johnnnny]

Well Im from Northern Michigan originally. So yeah not the traditional working out. But I am 18 and twice the muscle at least of any of the people my age. I bucked hay into the trucks as long as it kept growing and that was dawn until it was time to quit job. I bet I could lift a vw beetle up and put it in a hay truck. And Im probably naturally stronger than most of you all that take steroids. Not cuz I want to brag, but I am just that much stronger than anyone around.
I do pushups for chest and I have my brother hold the weights across his chest while he sits on my back. I got some free weights but can't afford the dumbbells. Pretty much ran out of weights in the garage. In high school gym which I take 3x a week. My last set on bench is 305 six times with no spot.
My dead lift is pretty close 400 pounds (from the bucking hay all my life) But I could easily train to 500

Thats about it. I shoulder press on the smith machine 225 x3 reps at the end in my gym. Of course I don't do it much during the summer when schools out. I can't military press free weights cuz of some shoulder pain from the hay bucking. And I say hay bucking, its a lot more than that. Running a farm and stuff. Its non stop lifting crushing lifting more. Things that gotta be done. Not like most people> I aint got no time to rest.

Thats the problem really, Im constantly tearing down my muscles. I need to find a way to adapt fast and not break down from overwork that I read about. As far as my diet. I eat everything that its made and force myself to eat more protein during the day. I could 10,000 calories of big macs but I don't. I each milk chicken and eat, potatoes and anything we can grow. I am not like you people. I get up in the AM and I don't stop until the Dusk covers my feet. I only spare 1/2 hour half the day-- NOW to be on the internet.

I got everything I need as far as working out. I eat 3-4 times as much as most of you from working the fields and the farm.
I don't need a press or a score. I need more musle to do my job, taking care of the family farm after my dad died suddenly a few months ago






.

 

[grind4it]

Stay on the farm and leave the juice to the grown ups. Youre in over your head. This shit will fuck you up for life if you don't know what your doing. You can't take some magic steroid pill and be the hulk. It takes years of training, diet and commitment. You say you don't have any free time....find another hobby for these extra 30 minutes a day you have.

 

[noobmuscle]

Hey Johnny. One thing that may help you grow and learn about this world is trying to stay humble. If you sped your time trying to convince me why you are different, then you probably will not end up taking my advice. Instead, you will tell yourself you are different so whatever rule is in discussion must not apply to you. Instead, why don't you try to see the similarities here man. Everyone on this board wants to change their body. Many people have jobs. Many people are country boys. You think your the only one?!

You come on here with no experience. You do little to no research on what you are doing, and you waste mine and everyone else s time because you are different so you don't have to read the required readings before posting. You expect me to do the research for you and just answer your questions. I will suggest something different. If you have such a good work ethic, why don't you work on learning this craft for the next 6-8 years. I would then spend some money on a dietecian to teach you how to eat. I would then look at hiring a personal trainer to teach you how to train. Then, after all the research, dieting, and fitness has taken place, come back here, read for 6 months before posting, humble yourself, and seek out the help of people who even after all you have done, will still know 1000X more than you do about this.

Cheers!

 

[noobmuscle]

Stay on the farm and leave the juice to the grown ups. Youre in over your head. This shit will fuck you up for life if you don't know what your doing. You can't take some magic steroid pill and be the hulk. It takes years of training, diet and commitment. You say you don't have any free time....find another hobby for these extra 30 minutes a day you have.

^^^^ Amen brother! Preach it!

 

[johnnnny]

Hey Johnny. One thing that may help you grow and learn about this world is trying to stay humble. If you sped your time trying to convince me why you are different, then you probably will not end up taking my advice. Instead, you will tell yourself you are different so whatever rule is in discussion must not apply to you. Instead, why don't you try to see the similarities here man. Everyone on this board wants to change their body. Many people have jobs. Many people are country boys. You think your the only one?!

You come on here with no experience. You do little to no research on what you are doing, and you waste mine and everyone else s time because you are different so you don't have to read the required readings before posting. You expect me to do the research for you and just answer your questions. I will suggest something different. If you have such a good work ethic, why don't you work on learning this craft for the next 6-8 years. I would then spend some money on a dietecian to teach you how to eat. I would then look at hiring a personal trainer to teach you how to train. Then, after all the research, dieting, and fitness has taken place, come back here, read for 6 months before posting, humble yourself, and seek out the help of people who even after all you have done, will still know 1000X more than you do about this.

Cheers!

With all due respect, I don't think it takes much to be your average sized meathead.
I want more than that. A lean sleek build similar to a greek god. Sure I can look like the gay whack off magazines for bodybuilding but I don't whack off to it and I don't aspire to be them. Therein we may differ. I know that anabolic steroids age your face, changes the placement of fat. It just makes guys ugly, Id like to avoid that.

Yes, since the age of 14, Ive done the powerlifting 12/10/8/6/5/4/3/15 romanian powerlifting training, my father was an olympic judo gold medalist. But we work hard, not like you people in America. I am American but you are so lazy. I know how to life eastern european style. Vastly superior. Your way of lifting. Tailored for that man on the go. The diet, the 45 minute workout. I workout the whole day. You think you can best me, someone who sees the sun all day long lifting the ground beneath him and falls into slumber when it is dark? YOU guys. you guys probably lift at most an hour a day. Jacked full of 500mg of test, some arimidex, front loading some dbol. The totally fucking up your PCT

And you look down on me for working my ass, supporting my family while you fucks spend 23 hours a day as a complete sloth? If it weren't for steroids you'd be obese monkeys (for me to poop on).

I say you are just to good for your own good. Love your commitment speech while your fatasses on are on the internet. And also find a girlfriend, why are you conversing with an 18 aspiring MALE bodybuilder?

Just stop now before you get mentally harmed

 

[noobmuscle]

With all due respect, I don't think it takes much to be your average sized meathead.
I want more than that. A lean sleek build similar to a greek god. Sure I can look like the gay whack off magazines for bodybuilding but I don't whack off to it and I don't aspire to be them. Therein we may differ. I know that anabolic steroids age your face, changes the placement of fat. It just makes guys ugly, Id like to avoid that.

Yes, since the age of 14, Ive done the powerlifting 12/10/8/6/5/4/3/15 romanian powerlifting training, my father was an olympic judo gold medalist. But we work hard, not like you people in America. I am American but you are so lazy. I know how to life eastern european style. Vastly superior. Your way of lifting. Tailored for that man on the go. The diet, the 45 minute workout. I workout the whole day. You think you can best me, someone who sees the sun all day long lifting the ground beneath him and falls into slumber when it is dark? YOU guys. you guys probably lift at most an hour a day. Jacked full of 500mg of test, some arimidex, front loading some dbol. The totally fucking up your PCT

And you look down on me for working my ass, supporting my family while you fucks spend 23 hours a day as a complete sloth? If it weren't for steroids you'd be obese monkeys (for me to poop on).

I say you are just to good for your own good. Love your commitment speech while your fatasses on are on the internet. And also find a girlfriend, why are you conversing with an 18 aspiring MALE bodybuilder?

Just stop now before you get mentally harmed

Why did you come hear if you already know everything? Do what your gonna do man. I'm done trying to help. You will come crawling back with horrible sides if you don't kill yourself instead. I and many of my other brothers will help you with your gyno like we help so many others because they were just like you at first. Its all good. Do you son. Do you! You know this game! Have fun! You dont need us!

@grind4it: You think if I took a bunch of Winstrol (winny) only I could get riped like the hulk in 4 weeks?!

 

[johnnnny]

Yah, so why did you spent a bunch of time telling an obvious newbie to do you TEN FUCKING year cycle

YOU ARE AN OBVIOUS DOUCHEBAG. No joke. Read your fucking posts you fucking twat. I just thought it was funny who a 4 month old twat such as yourself talks like you are the king shit of Steroidology land.

FIRST OFF: YOU ARE A NEWBIE FAGGOT PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE THAT YOU ARE NOT

Second off: You are an idot. A 500mg cycle of any test like enanthate or cypionate won't do any harm. Even if they don't throw in some Aromatase inhibitor (AI)

I know the game bro. Ive brought it from mexico, enchilada from 1991. And I can do whatever I want. Including drinking a few beers and making an ass out of some newbie know-it-all giving advice

Douchebag. Learn who Johnnny is. Before you start attacking Johnnnny

I know all and everything about the cholesterol rings and their functional groups. I know how to have it manufactured and how to get it to you.

So step back punk.

Im Johnnny

 

[DaHurt]

Yah, so why did you spent a bunch of time telling an obvious newbie to do you TEN FUCKING year cycle

YOU ARE AN OBVIOUS DOUCHEBAG. No joke. Read your fucking posts you fucking twat. I just thought it was funny who a 4 month old twat such as yourself talks like you are the king shit of Steroidology land.

FIRST OFF: YOU ARE A NEWBIE FAGGOT PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE THAT YOU ARE NOT

Second off: You are an idot. A 500mg cycle of any test like enanthate or cypionate won't do any harm. Even if they don't throw in some Aromatase inhibitor (AI)

I know the game bro. Ive brought it from mexico, enchilada from 1991. And I can do whatever I want. Including drinking a few beers and making an ass out of some newbie know-it-all giving advice

Douchebag. Learn who Johnnny is. Before you start attacking Johnnnny

I know all and everything about the cholesterol rings and their functional groups. I know how to have it manufactured and how to get it to you.

So step back punk.

Im Johnnny

1991? You weren't born yet if you are 18. Mods ban this lying little troll.

If you 'know the game', quit asking for advice on the internet.

 

[crazyfmike]

Mark was running test as a base as any "in the know" AAS user does. The Pro hormone BS was him trying to get our of trouble. You need to read up son.

I'd like to remember his "favorite cycle" but he ran so much gear I cannot recall. None was and PH's....that is for sure.

 

[ilovejuice]

I see this smart ass with some bitch tits full of milk coming back to ask for help.

 

[Rastas]

This is funny. I read the first post and thought Johnny ain't 18. He's 40 and looking to shit stir.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Ban this fuckin faggot. You go hard on the keyboard, but in real life you wouldn't say shit to 90% of the guys on here including myself! Take you and your pretentious nerd ego to another forum. It's fuck heads like you that give the fitness world a bad name!

 

[Slickspurs]

LOL hell no!

 

[brother bundy]

wow this johnnnny is quite the queer.johnnny I would like to throw u in the trunk of a car and listen to your muffled screams of agony

 

[IronReps]

Don't feed the trolls.

 

[ryand]

I can't believe you wasted your time trolling around typing that much johnnnyyyy, you fucking douchebag.