How Long Is Too Long?

[2rude4u]

Is there a point where your natural test production will never return and if so what is it? (approximately) If for example you are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a year or you run a cycle of several months, can it permanently shut you down?

 

[DADAWG]

every individual is different so its impossible to say.

 

[2rude4u]

every individual is different so its impossible to say.

I realize everyone is different, that's why I said approximately. Are you saying that length of time varies or are you saying that some guys shut down permanently and some guys don't?

 

[DADAWG]

I realize everyone is different, that's why I said approximately. Are you saying that length of time varies or are you saying that some guys shut down permanently and some guys don't?

people shut down at different times , some can cycle over and over and seem to recover easily and some shut down easily.

 

[2rude4u]

people shut down at different times , some can cycle over and over and seem to recover easily and some shut down easily.

I hear what you're sayin, but what I really want to know is if there's a point where it becomes permanent and you NEVER RECOVER you natural test production?

 

[DADAWG]

I hear what you're sayin, but what I really want to know is if there's a point where it becomes permanent and you NEVER RECOVER you natural test production?

yes there is usually a point where you never recover but its IMPOSSIBLE to say when that will be for you.

 

[Ythrashin]

I hear what you're sayin, but what I really want to know is if there's a point where it becomes permanent and you NEVER RECOVER you natural test production?

Dude he's right... it depends on the individual.

I've heard some peeps say they've recovered from 1-4+ year long periods of cruising and cycling AAS.

I've also heard accounts of peeps natural Test production being permanently screwed from 1 or 2 cycles of AAS.

It depends on your biological/genetic makeup bro...and maybe a bit of luck too...

 

[2rude4u]

yes there is usually a point where you never recover but its IMPOSSIBLE to say when that will be for you.

Thanks dude... that's what I wanted to know.

 

[2rude4u]

Dude he's right... it depends on the individual.

I've heard some peeps say they've recovered from 1-4+ year long periods of cruising and cycling AAS.

I've also heard accounts of peeps natural Test production being permanently screwed from 1 or 2 cycles of AAS.

It depends on your biological/genetic makeup bro...and maybe a bit of luck too...

I'm not saying he's wrong. I was just trying to get a specific answer and wasn't sure if we were both on the same page.

 

[Massive123]

Yea people aren't all the same. There's no formula to this one. That being said, there's a reason your first cycles shouldn't be huge or too long. Something you gotta play by ear & should definitely err on the side of caution IMO

 

[OMEGA]

Generally the longer your on the longer your shut off.


That being Said there was a Study at Berkley where even the MOST crashed guys took 1 year to finally come back to where they were before.

Its the damage done WHILE your shut off that causes the most issues.

 

[OMEGA]

I've also heard accounts of peeps natural Test production being permanently screwed from 1 or 2 cycles of AAS.

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yep

this occurs it seems with those who did NO PCT, and who never shifted T to E ratios to favor T

 

[Trenbolin]

as long as you run HCG properly during long cycles your testies will still be alive when you come off. your brain will almost always balance itself out as long as the cells in your testicals dont get damaged, which can happen with atrophy over long periods of time and inproper use. theres a right way to do everything and a wrong way and half ass ways to I guess.