How many Cycles is too Many?

[Oakmuscle]

What im wondering is and I know its impossible to answer exactly. But generally how many cycles can one do of 500mg Test without ever needing to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? I mean im guessing if one only did one cycle ever at say 24 yrs old. Did proper post cycle therapy (pct), they would rebound back to their natural test levels. And in 10 years there natural test would be just as if they never did AAS. What is the cap off? How many cycles can one safely do before it will permanently affect there natty test levels.

Since im not competing and havent done AAS yet, I am concerned about this. My goal is to hit my genetic potential and maintain that for as many years as possible.

 

[crazyfmike]

Bloodwork is going to show your recovery. Take a reading no AAS. Run a cycle and three months after PCT check again, go from there.

 

[manletbrah12]

Bloodwork is going to show your recovery. Take a reading no AAS. Run a cycle and three months after post cycle therapy (pct) check again, go from there.

is it possible with some AAS that even after 2-3 months with proper post cycle therapy (pct) you are still not fully recovered?

 

[Santaklaus]

I screwed up my natty test when I was 24. Well, actually from 22-24. Stayed on Test/Deca for 2 straight years and did no post cycle therapy (pct) when I came off. I was young, dumb and invincible. You can and will fuck up your natural test production if you start too early and especially if you don't know what you are doing. Trust me, you don't want this to happen.

To answer your question, there is no answer to your question. There are so many variables involved and each person is different. I'm convinced when you start so young(20-25) you will never produce as much natural test as you were prior to starting, even with proper post cycle therapy (pct). That's why it's suggested you leave the steroids for older guys who are not producing enough test naturally anymore. At your age you are in your prime in terms of test production. Once you hit 30 it will start decreasing and you'll know when it's time to hit the needle.

 

[jupiterak]

Just what Santaklaus said.. I did some bad shit in my late 20's and now on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life... I'm just glad my liver is still good.

 

[Oakmuscle]

I screwed up my natty test when I was 24. Well, actually from 22-24. Stayed on Test/Deca for 2 straight years and did no PCT when I came off. I was young, dumb and invincible. You can and will fuck up your natural test production if you start too early and especially if you don't know what you are doing. Trust me, you don't want this to happen.

To answer your question, there is no answer to your question. There are so many variables involved and each person is different. I'm convinced when you start so young(20-25) you will never produce as much natural test as you were prior to starting, even with proper post cycle therapy (pct). That's why it's suggested you leave the steroids for older guys who are not producing enough test naturally anymore. At your age you are in your prime in terms of test production. Once you hit 30 it will start decreasing and you'll know when it's time to hit the needle.

I understand this. Although I was under the impression its better to run it at 20-25yrs as your more likely to rebound. Also you have to understand, im not an idiot kid. I have been been working out naturally for 3 years and ive pushed and pushed. I went from 13" to 18" arms. So when I say this dont take it as a foolish dumb kid but, the idea of steroids for me is the look. I mean when im 30 and possibly with a family I wont need to impress anyone. The idea is I go out to clubs and bars and well you know, you wanna look good. So the idea of waiting for 10 years or so, ill feel as if im always waiting.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Bloodwork is going to show your recovery. Take a reading no AAS. Run a cycle and three months after post cycle therapy (pct) check again, go from there.

Agreed

No one can answer what you ask. one guy might use aas dor 30yrs and be fine for recovery the next guy light have use dit for 10 and his recovery didnt happen. was it from the aas or was it comming anyway? this is what we dont know for the guys that dont recover.

 

[FormerFatty]

I understand this. Although I was under the impression its better to run it at 20-25yrs as your more likely to rebound. Also you have to understand, im not an idiot kid. I have been been working out naturally for 3 years and ive pushed and pushed. I went from 13" to 18" arms. So when I say this dont take it as a foolish dumb kid but, the idea of steroids for me is the look. I mean when im 30 and possibly with a family I wont need to impress anyone. The idea is I go out to clubs and bars and well you know, you wanna look good. So the idea of waiting for 10 years or so, ill feel as if im always waiting.

Well when you are over 30 with a family you will find the only person you need to impress is your self. I didnt start gear until in my 30's after 10 years of lifting, I didnt it because I wanted to keep doing the physical things I like doing with the same energy I did before.

As for your question blood work is the only way, and unfortunately all the post cycle therapy (pct) and advice everyone gives you still only minimizes the chances for issues. Now in many ways it reduces the chances for problems to almost nothing but there is always still a risk.