How much test does a pro take???

[StoneColdNTO]

I have known pros that are doing over 4000g.

Hey babe......you forgot the "m" in front of the "g"...........

 

[3J]

dude i did a 1g front load and i felt like shit.. 3-4-5g a week?? god damn.. talk about androgen receptor downregulation..

 

[jjtattoofreak]

^^^ lol

 

[jjtattoofreak]

I ll stick to my little tiny kid cycle, Thanks though that shit would put me in a comma and I would have a perma hard on ...

 

[juced_porkchop]

dude i did a 1g front load and i felt like shit.. 3-4-5g a week?? god damn.. talk about androgen receptor downregulation..

this is a myth


rise in SHBG over time maybe

 

[3J]

this is a myth


rise in SHBG over time maybe

really?? a myth?? im hoping you can elaborate..

also, could u explain why there s a need to up dosage over time as you progress through your cycles??

 

[juced_porkchop]

I have known pros that are doing over 4000g. However I don't think that high amount is as common now with the introduction of insulin, gh and synthol.

I find many pro physiques repulsive nowadays though. That stupid fucking gut they all sport. The judges need to get some balls and mark them down for that.

I AGREE100 %!!

80's-90's bodybuilders where great. now most "to me" look like shit.
they look like preggo shemales

 

[juced_porkchop]

really?? a myth?? im hoping you can elaborate..

also, could u explain why there s a need to up dosage over time as you progress through your cycles??

yes it is a myth. there is not receptor down regulation.

why up doses?
here are a few reez:
*you have more mass to deal with and grow with over time.
*you need to input more calories as you grow (alot seem not to do this and up there gear).
*SHBG

google it.

 

[DADAWG]

really?? a myth?? im hoping you can elaborate..

also, could u explain why there s a need to up dosage over time as you progress through your cycles??

the closer you get to your genetic limit/potential the more gear it will take to grow.

 

[juced_porkchop]

receptors are growing and dieing every day.
this isnot the issue to stalled gains

changing routines, adding things to lower and bind to SHBG like provirion and mast.
upping doses, adding cals.
alot you can do.

 

[3J]

interesting.. imma have to look deeper into it... thx for the clarification...

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Agreed......that whole receptor down regulation theory is just that, an old internet myth.

Juced is correct, receptors dies off and a replaced on a continual basis.

 

[3J]

receptors are growing and dieing every day.
this isnot the issue to stalled gains

changing routines, adding things to lower and bind to SHBG like provirion and mast.
upping doses, adding cals.
alot you can do.

btw.. who is that in your avi?

 

[3J]

Agreed......that whole receptor down regulation theory is just that, an old internet myth.

Juced is correct, receptors dies off and a replaced on a continual basis.

yea, iv been at other boards that swear by it.. but yet they swore by frontloading too... i wont be doing that agian.. haha

 

[juced_porkchop]

what i rec is add provarion halfway threw your cycle on long cycles , or adding mast.
helps to lower test thats binding to the SHBG. there are a few other things that bind to test but thats the main one that cuases issues from what iv read and tested myself.

of course changinf compounds around if your on most of year but i dont rec that.

 

[3J]

i dont do more then two cycles a year.. im only planing on doing this one this year... i believe your diet and training reg should be your focus.. not your next cycle...

iv only done 4 cycles in my life... i dont know everything about compounds and can only go by hear say.. so it's great when someone clears things up.. im always looking for the next step.. the new science.. the correction to a past presumed truth...

reps juced...

 

[juced_porkchop]

thanx
then i rec you try out maste in your next cycle.

somthing like:
wk1-6 dbol or tbol 40mg ed
wk1-12 teste 500mg ew
wk1-12 maste 300mg ew

i have recently used mast for firstime in bulking and i must say i like it. nvm this talk of mast only being for cutting or if you have 6% BF. bullcrap. lol


and BTW, where always learning here.

 

[jackt]

If your answer is option #4 I would love to see the bodybuilder you're referring to. I'd have a hard time drinking that much gear if it tasted like orange juice

 

[R1rider]

dude i did a 1g front load and i felt like shit.. 3-4-5g a week?? god damn.. talk about androgen receptor downregulation..

exactly. I did 750 mg/week and went nuts.

 

[jedi_master]

Sorry for bumping an oldie.. but I know a canadian amature who bangs a vial of suspension every other day along with much much more.



Just sayin.