How To Reduce Sex Hormone. Shbg

Didn't you mean you created UNLEASED? You said you would change the formula. Thus my thinking you would be profiting promoting UNLEASHED. I.E directly or indirectly profiting.

And if you did and are promoting it(especially if it does work) that's all well and good. As I stated I don't really care about a plug. If it worked I'd be eating it like candy.
 
I see what you mean. Okay. Let me clarify.

What I meant was, a lot of people who promote a product have no particular involement in it other than they sell it. If that were the case I could say ****** was the greatest shit in the world whether I believed it or not and I'd make a percentage on each sale. That's the way it's usually done.

But I developed UNLEASHED based on ingredients I've been recomending for a long time in which I never made a cent. But unlike some people who claim to do things solely for altruistic reasons (and are full of BS) I did finally put together what I believed to be the most effective formula and it is being marketed through one of this sites sponsers. At any rate, you're right -- all that matters is if it works. And it does, and I'm proud of that.
 
Correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt insulin block the shbg. That is one of the reasons insulin is so synergystic with anabolics.
 
Doesn't T supplementation while keeping E normal, lower SHBG?
Insulin lowers SHBG as well.
 
I never really understood why so many people are concerned with lowering SHBG during a cycle. If you're shooting 500mg of test a week, your SHBG will already be significantly lowered without taking any ancillaries. I think you guys are worrying too much about something that is quite insignificant IMHO.
 
bleachcola said:
I never really understood why so many people are concerned with lowering SHBG during a cycle. If you're shooting 500mg of test a week, your SHBG will already be significantly lowered without taking any ancillaries. I think you guys are worrying too much about something that is quite insignificant IMHO.

Your SHBG levels determine how much available testosterone is active, which is all that matters. How is that insignificant? It is THE MOST significant aspect of anabolism.
 
It's insignificant because your SHBG levels will already be lowered when your on a cycle. It's not really necessary to try and lower them any further. There might be reason for concern post cycle, but I wouldn't worry about it when your "on".
 
I have yet to try unleashed but proviron works great. I have also had great results with insulin. I would say that lowering SHBG during a cycle is VERY important. I mean lowering SHBG during a cycle means that it takes less gear to get the same effects. And less gear means less sides.
 
frotobaggins said:
I have yet to try unleashed but proviron works great. I have also had great results with insulin. I would say that lowering SHBG during a cycle is VERY important. I mean lowering SHBG during a cycle means that it takes less gear to get the same effects. And less gear means less sides.

If your argument is correct, then you would have the same amount of free test floating around and the sides would be the same. SHBG really isn't a factor when you are taking a decent amount of test. ***Shooting exogenous testosterone lowers SHBG by itself.*** That means your SHBG will already be abnormally low. If you really want to worry about something, worry about liver values or blood pressure -- something relevant.
 
Yeah, I dont understand where this bullshit of lowering SHBG to get more out of your cycle came from either. I mean as said above, shooting test will lower it. And if you really want to lower it more or keep it low, than prevent estrogen from rising by using AI's....that all you need.
 
bleachcola said:
If your argument is correct, then you would have the same amount of free test floating around and the sides would be the same. SHBG really isn't a factor when you are taking a decent amount of test. ***Shooting exogenous testosterone lowers SHBG by itself.*** That means your SHBG will already be abnormally low. If you really want to worry about something, worry about liver values or blood pressure -- something relevant.

Wrong again.

Free test does not aromatize and can not cause gyno.

There's no such thing as "abnormally" low SHBG.

Also, if you need less gear to obtain the same free T level, that will keep
BP under control. And yes, liver values are a concern, which is why Post-Cycle contains FIVE liver protectants -- more than Tylers, or Liv 52, or any other.

It's interesting; these roducts were designed to help steroid users, but it's the less knowledgable steroid users who tend to be the most close minded about using natural alternatives. The internet has spawned a generation who believe that only drugs work and there's a drug to cure every problem -- and they're wrong on both counts.
 
I am going to have to side with Nelson on this one. Although I have the upmost respect for Mr. Nobody as I find his opinions to be very usefull.
 
It's interesting; these roducts were designed to help steroid users, but it's the less knowledgable steroid users who tend to be the most close minded about using natural alternatives. The internet has spawned a generation who believe that only drugs work and there's a drug to cure every problem -- and they're wrong on both counts.

Wrong again.

These products were designed to make money. If the people who produced these products really wanted to help steroid users, they would admit that the product is bunk. Or at the very least, advise users to still use clomid/nolvadex/hcg methods of recovery.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Wrong again.

Free test does not aromatize and can not cause gyno.

There's no such thing as "abnormally" low SHBG.

Also, if you need less gear to obtain the same free T level, that will keep
BP under control. And yes, liver values are a concern, which is why Post-Cycle contains FIVE liver protectants -- more than Tylers, or Liv 52, or any other.

It's interesting; these roducts were designed to help steroid users, but it's the less knowledgable steroid users who tend to be the most close minded about using natural alternatives. The internet has spawned a generation who believe that only drugs work and there's a drug to cure every problem -- and they're wrong on both counts.



No what's happened is the net has allowed the collective voices of distrust to be heard. This along with the many lies from the medical profession exposed has generated a distrust of everything not proven by the masses.
The supplement industry exposure of the multitude of lies has been a long time coming.
Now the masses don't have to rely on big false ads filled with pro-bodies/faces talking shit/endorsements/making money. We have instant feedback from real people. At the same time pharmacueticals are at our fingertips(which has never been the case before-
I always thought Weider and the gang had the biggest hand in keeping steroids outta the publics hand{knowing the pro's would still be juiced to the gills to sell their products}
I believe there are non pharmacueticals/naturals that work. The problem is(as has always been) ingredients and effectiveness hype all come from the people selling the supplements with NO unbiased GOVERNING body to discredit anything. This discredit has always come from the people AFTER they've spent a shit load of money and word of mouth got out that it was shit.=a lot like counterfeit roids-now we can blast their asses awy with pix & feedback to keep them from selling-oh how things have changed.....
People have been tired of getting fucked. Now they're gun-shy and this causes them to also miss out sometimes.
BUT if something TRUELY is good people will use it and the useless shit will disappear. The paradox is supplement sellers can blast out to more people than ever before....so now they better have something effective or it will be gone almost as quick as it arrived(maybe).

The latest thing so far I have used is universalkits p-gh. So far it is one that I really like(though I won't be able to give true feedback for a month). In my feedback I have the power to influence thousands of would-be buyers almost at the instant I press send.....pretty cool.....think abouth the horse & buggy days pre-net.....


BTW Even though I've spent years of getting fucked I still try supplements but it's only after REAL people on these boards have posted.
 
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