How to stop TREN induced gyno?????

[macro]

Actually, what you're saying is innacurate... The retarded bromo idea was based on a lamb study in which tren caused hypothyroidism so an assumption was made that the same would happen in humans which would result in increased PRL levels.

If you look at the human studies you can see that AS cause mild thyroidal impairment by decreasing TBG, which results in decreased total T3 & T4, free T4 & T3 & basal and stimulated PRL levels are uneffected.



. [/B]

actually that was your or nandi's "retarded idea". the issue has nothing to do with thyroid, and everything to due with mixed activity at the PR, so you are arguing against your "own" retarded idea.

 

[macro]

Also, nipple tenderness does not always progress to gynecomastia & drug induced gynocomastia can frequently regress after the drug which induced it is removed, so you made another WRONG conclusion.


. [/B]

see now your making foolish assumptions. not too bright. the offending drug was in many cases NOT REMOVED, cycles continued with the addition of bromo and there was complete regression of symptoms. there are numerous posts on this.

but given your VERY limited experience and your extreme reliance on studies you would jump to such and erroneous conclusion.

 

[macro]

Basal and stimulated PRL levels were unaffected by androgens, as has been described previously for pharmaco-logical doses in hypogonadal men (10).


[/B]

tsk... tsk.. its all in the measurements... PR activity affects NOCTURNAL SECRETION... you can have completely normal daytime values and still have a serious prolactin problem.

 

[E-Swift25]

Would bromo help with gyno from a-bombs?

 

[Ifrit]

Contraversial shit ain't it?

 

[hhajdo]

Now I have to respond again...

If a drug affects PRL, it will affect it regardless of when it's measured...
It is not true that PR activity affects nocturnal secretion.
I agree that strong PR agonists can increase prolactin in some cases, but this obviously doesn't happen with nandrolone, a known PR agonist, so there's no reason to assume that it would happen with tren...