How to use HCG for a restart

[golfer34]

Ive been lurking around for a bit, however, ive gone through many of the frustrations you have all been through in regard to low T.

im 34 my total T is in the mid fours right now. it has risen to a low noml level over the past six months through a holistic approach. having levels in the mid fours means doctors wont treat me around here regardless of my symptoms....im told im fine according to them.

it has come to a point that im considering self treating. id be looking to do so with HCG. im not looking to try test becuase ill be trying to hace kids soon.

has anyone treated themselves and/or been treated with hcg?

what is the treatment protocol?

my research indicated that 750ius ew is a good start anlong with an AI.

thoughts please

 

[jozifp103]

hcg is used to prime the testes for natural lh production. hcg for a period of time (everyone is different) followed by a certain dose of clomid for a certin amount of time (again, everyone is different). the clomid will kickstart your natural lh production to get your hpta working again. hcg is suppressive so it shouldn't be run long term. i'd go through a professional. if your gp won't help you and you're from the US, try IMT. i use them for trt and they also offer great restart programs.

 

[golfer34]

Ive seen many doctors and im currently untreatable because im in normal range. in the past, ive denied treatment because i didnt agree with how they wanted to treat me. Fertility is my biggest concern. Test is not an option at this time.

what type of resart have you done?

could you please provide info for IMT

 

[jozifp103]

Increasemyt.com online trt clinic with restart programs too. It's out of pocket though. I have not done a restart I went straight on trt. It's worth a call they helped me when no doctors would

 

[IMT staff]

you need to run a good amount for 5-8 weeks and get a total testosterone test while your on the HCG to make sure it is doing its job. Also need to control estrogen during this time period.

Call us if you want help.

 

[ctstrength]

IMT, if someone's estradiol was already low <5.0, would controlling estrogen be a concern while running HCG?

 

[IMT staff]

yes it can convert directly and stimulate E2. If your running proper amounts there is a good chance you will need it. 1500 IU 2x a week is the least amount IMT uses.

 

[ctstrength]

What about 1200 IU 3x a week? Would that warrant estrogen control?

 

[IMT staff]

its really hard to say, honestly you should only do HCG 2x as well. Everyone will be different, you could possibly have an aromatase deficiency, the best way is symptomalogy and lab work.

 

[ctstrength]

its really hard to say, honestly you should only do HCG 2x as well. Everyone will be different, you could possibly have an aromatase deficiency, the best way is symptomalogy and lab work.

Sending a pm as to not hijack the thread.

 

[ctstrength]

its really hard to say, honestly you should only do HCG 2x as well. Everyone will be different, you could possibly have an aromatase deficiency, the best way is symptomalogy and lab work.

Nevermind, your inbox is full.

Here is my most recent test results

April 10, 2014
TSH W/ reflex to FT4 - 2.16 (.40-4.5)
Test, Total - 246 (250-1100)
Test, Free - 22.9 (46-224)
Test, Bio - 51 (110-575)
SHBG - 46 (10-50)
Albumin, serum - 4.9 (3.6-5.1)

April 21 (Different Doctor)
Test, Total - 150.7 (249-836)
Test, Free - 1.49 (8.8-27)
LH - 3.1 (1.7-8.6)
FSH - 3.3 (1.5-12.4)
Progesterone - .39 (.20-1.40)
Prolactin, Serum - 7.8 (4.0-15.2)
Estradiol - <5.00 (7.63-42.60)
Insulin - <2.0 (6.0-27.0)

First doctor wanted to prescribe androgel without doing further testing.

Second doctor ordered additional blood work and wanted to prescribe testosterone, 200 mg every 2 weeks.

Saw a third doctor, he wants to do HCG, 1200 IU 3x a week.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Alpin]

500 I.u. Monday, Wednesday, Friday stimulates plenty natty T in me. I can't complain. ADEX E3D at 0.25 mg is keeping my E2 at 29 pg/ml with TT 510 ng/dl.
I cant handle any more HCG than this. If I take this longer than 8 weeks it feels too potent a dose....

 

[golfer34]

500 I.u. Monday, Wednesday, Friday stimulates plenty natty T in me. I can't complain. ADEX E3D at 0.25 mg is keeping my E2 at 29 pg/ml with TT 510 ng/dl.
I cant handle any more HCG than this. If I take this longer than 8 weeks it feels too potent a dose....

so youre at 500iu m,w,f

adex .25 every 3rd day

you cycle 8 weeks on....how many off?

when you come off do you use a SERM?

are you self treated or under the care of a doc?

 

[golfer34]

you need to run a good amount for 5-8 weeks and get a total testosterone test while your on the HCG to make sure it is doing its job. Also need to control estrogen during this time period.

Call us if you want help.

i will call tomorrow.

is a serm suggested when coming off?

does time on equal time off?