I hate fucking deadlifts!!!!!

[Footballstar74]

And for the people that dont know what a trap bar is check it out http://www.parisischool.com/Eddie_Freeman.html

 

[jcp2]

b/c every single college in the country uses trap bars for deadlifts in there football program. You have more balance with the trap bar and you can also do more weight .It is very good for explosion according to a football clinic. See in football the most important lifts are called core lifts.Thats bench,cleans,deadlifts,squads,jammer. They are mostly done for exploding of the line and power for us linemen.

I bet Bill Starr had his kids doing conventional deads. I am pretty sure No one i know who played ball anywhere used that trap bar, but i will ask.

 

[thorsky]

The trap bar lets you get lazy. You don't have to concern yourself with bar position in relation to shins, and can lean back more. To me the trap bar makes deads more like hacks.

 

[jcp2]

The trap bar lets you get lazy. You don't have to concern yourself with bar position in relation to shins, and can lean back more. To me the trap bar makes deads more like hacks.

Now that i think about it i agree, at best it is a hybrid of deads and barbell hacks.

 

[house1]

i have used the trapbar in the past and find it to be less effective then the conventional bar--

just my 2 cents

 

[Insane_Man]

Trapbars are good if you have back problems. Otherwise, real deadlifts are the way to go.

 

[Footballstar74]

I bet Bill Starr had his kids doing conventional deads. I am pretty sure No one i know who played ball anywhere used that trap bar, but i will ask.

All the college camps I went to use the trap bar for deadlifts. Rutgers, Boston College , Penn State and so on . I think they would know what there doing. They must have some reason for using them.

 

[thorsky]

It's not that there is anything wrong with trap bar deads. It's just that they aren't really deads anymore. They are more a mix of hacks and deads, and will put more emphasis on the legs and less on the back. You will still get back involvement but not to the same degree as a conventional dead.

 

[Footballstar74]

It's not that there is anything wrong with trap bar deads. It's just that they aren't really deads anymore. They are more a mix of hacks and deads, and will put more emphasis on the legs and less on the back. You will still get back involvement but not to the same degree as a conventional dead.

I agree

 

[Traps]

Could you guys explain to me what "fucking deadlifts" are. I have done Deadlifts before but never Fucking deadlifts!

T

 

[pullinbig]

heavy dead lifts lolololol

 

[joltan]

my hands are all calasses . sp

 

[huskyguy]

Why is everyone whining about deadlifts they are one of the most bang for the buck exercises you can do--toughen up

 

[slobberknocker]

All the college camps I went to use the trap bar for deadlifts. Rutgers, Boston College , Penn State and so on . I think they would know what there doing. They must have some reason for using them.

I wouldn't listen to Penn State for advice on lifting. They don't believe in squats or olympic lifts. I know because I almost played D Tackle for them. Then I got smart and became a powerlifter instead, lol.

 

[pullinbig]

slobby u is a riot. lolololol
heheheheheheheeheh

 

[hornedfrogs07]

All the college camps I went to use the trap bar for deadlifts. Rutgers, Boston College , Penn State and so on . I think they would know what there doing. They must have some reason for using them.

Bro, our football players don't even DO deadlifts.

I don't believe that deads would fall into that "core lifts" category, b/c they really have very little bearing on football actions. Explosive lifts are much better for that purpose.

I can see the benefit of using a trap bar, if it does indeed provide more explosion, but I don't see how it would.

Just my .02

 

[r3ver3nd]

I always did deads for football. But, we had older coaches who loved the old ways of things.
I think if your overall goal is speed, perhaps explosiveness, then incorporate those trap lifts into your lower body days.
If your goal is more towards strengthening your back (which is very important) then deadlifts can't be avoided. Even if you have to use gloves/straps/belts/kitchen sink. They are still worth the effort.

Just my........ .03 cents.

 

[Insane_Man]

Yeah, our football players don't do them either.

If I were the coach I would certainly have them doing them off season though. Since deadlifts are the most intensive exercise, using the largst number of muscles, they are the best way to gain mass.

I remember reading somewhere that the average college lineman today is much heavier and significantly weaker than in 1985.

Can't remember the exact stats, btu basically, they're all a bunch of teddy bears.

 

[Footballstar74]

Yeah, our football players don't do them either.

If I were the coach I would certainly have them doing them off season though. Since deadlifts are the most intensive exercise, using the largst number of muscles, they are the best way to gain mass.

I remember reading somewhere that the average college lineman today is much heavier and significantly weaker than in 1985.

Can't remember the exact stats, btu basically, they're all a bunch of teddy bears.

You sure u read weake? It might have been slower.

 

[Insane_Man]

I believe it was like 100lbs less on the combine