Please Help Me Get To 200lbs!! (I Need A Miracle) pic

[MGunz]

Surprised nobody pointed this out. Especially if you can eat whatever you want...


Stop the clean bulk bullshit and go house some fucking double cheeseburgers and milk shakes bro. WtFFFF is this clean bulk nonsense ??? Mark my words eat like an asshole and in 2 months you'll add 20lbs. Some may be fat but you can burn it and do it again... Now go get that burger

haha you gave me the same advice last cycle bro, and it opened my eyes..I stopped the clean bulk shit a while ago. Last few months I've just been after high calorie foods. I hit the buffet once a week, I can eat stupid amounts in onesitting.. Chipotle is the my fav. I get a 1300 cal boritto, that shit is amazing. anyone that likes mexican, try it!
maybe I need to be eating more of these kind of foods though..hopefully you guys can give me some more feedback once you see what I'm eating.
Been keeping the log last few days, and haven't added up the cals yet, but I may not be getting as many calories as I thought I was. It is a lot though..we'll know for sure in a few days.

 

[RJ]

haha you gave me the same advice last cycle bro, and it opened my eyes..I stopped the clean bulk shit a while ago. Last few months I've just been after high calorie foods. I hit the buffet once a week, I can eat stupid amounts in onesitting.. Chipotle is the my fav. I get a 1300 cal boritto, that shit is amazing. anyone that likes mexican, try it!
maybe I need to be eating more of these kind of foods though..hopefully you guys can give me some more feedback once you see what I'm eating.
Been keeping the log last few days, and haven't added up the cals yet, but I may not be getting as many calories as I thought I was. It is a lot though..we'll know for sure in a few days.

if you're not having quad stackers from BK twice a week and eating a whole pizza once a week, on top of everything else, then you ain't trying.

 

[MGunz]

if you're not having quad stackers from BK twice a week and eating a whole pizza once a week, on top of everything else, then you ain't trying.

well I got my double bacon cheeseburgers today from checkers..am I a third of the way there lol?? I didn't notice they forgot my fries till I got home though, fuckers are lucky there's no tren in this cycle.........yet

 

[3J]

if you're not having quad stackers from BK twice a week and eating a whole pizza once a week, on top of everything else, then you ain't trying.

come on RJ.. thats crap!

 

[RJ]

come on RJ.. thats crap!

hey, those are two of the best 2300 kcal meals while you are adding mass.

I didn't say eat like shit all week. But three cheat meals a week is great for adding mass.

 

[MGunz]

ok I have all my food from the last 5 days. I'm having trouble calculating the calories from the meat. I weigh all my meat raw and grill it. Is their a site that will give me the correct calories? I tried a few but they all give me different amounts.

 

[djmamo]

I would up your gear... And Doudle Mc Cheeseburgers!

 

[Massive123]

Burgazzz fo da boyyyyzzz

 

[MGunz]

ok here is the food I took in over the course of 5 days..I kept it as usual as I always do and didn't change anything..I wrote everything down to the T. Now just to be clear, I am gaining weight with this diet..I'v always been able to get up to 185 eating like this and than I hit a brick wall. Being that Im once again coming up to 185 I dont wanna hit that wall. Thats why I need help. Oh and for anyone curious I took by BF and weight last week right after that pic. I am 181lbs and 12.8% BF
Sorry it took so long, It was A LOT of food to add up lol

edit: I grill all of my meat and it is weighed before cooking.

DAY 1

Meal1 cal fat carb prot
2 srvg pastina (210 2 40 8)
1 cup milk (120 5 12 8)
1 scoop whey (110 1 0 25)
1 srvg PB (190 16 15 7)

PW
1 scoop BCAA
1 scoop Creatine

Meal 2 PW
1.0lb steak (912 58 0 92)
2 cup brown rice (440 8 82 10)

Meal 3
1lb swai fish (280 6 0 56)
2 cup brown rice (440 8 82 10)

meal 4
.8lb pork cutlet (437 16 0 70)
2 cup brown rice (440 8 82 10)

pre bed
.4lb pork cutlet (219 8 0 35)
1 scoop casein (110 1 0 25)
1 serving PB (190 16 15 7)

totals : cal 3221 fat 160 carb 328 prot 363

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DAY 2

Meal1
1 cup raisin brain- 190 1 46 5
.4lb pork cutlet- 219 8 0 35
1 whole egg- 70 5 1 6
1 cup milk- 120 5 12 8
1 scoop whey- 110 1 0 25
1 serving PB- 190 16 15 7


Meal2
1.3lb Steak- 1186 75 0 120
2 cups brown rice- 440 8 82 10

Meal3
.5lb turkey breast on- 240 4.5 0 36
ww bread (mustard)- 180 2 36 8

snack
3 whole eggs- 210 15 3 18

Meal4
1lb chicken breasts- 468 20 0 72
1 cup brown rice- 220 4 41 5

PW
1 scoop creatine
1 scoop BCAA

Meal5
1.2lb Steak (t sirloin)- 1094 70 0 110
5oz white pasta- 500 2.5 103 17.5

Meal6
.8lbs chicken breasts- 375 16 0 58

pre bed
1 scoop casein- 110 1 0 25
2 servings PB- 380 32 30 14


totals : cal 6302 fat 286 carb 369 prot 521

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DAY3

Meal1
1/2 cup oatmeal- 160 3 26 6
1 cup milk- 120 5 12 8
1 scoop whey- 110 1 0 25
1 srvg PB- 190 16 15 7
2 scoop BCAA

Meal2
1lb steak- 912 58 0 92
1 pckg raman noodles- 380 14 54 10

Meal3
.5lb steak- 456 29 0 46
.5lb chicken- 234 10 0 36
1 cup broccoli -40 0 7 4

Meal4
turkey triple decker sandwich with bacon and fries (diner)
(estimations) 1400 90 100 55

Meal5
2 servngs PB&J on WW - 560 34 66 22

pre bed
casein in water- 110 1 0 25
1/4lb roast beef -160 0 6 24

totals : cal 4932 fat 261 carb 297 prot 360

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DAY 4

Meal1
1/2 cup oatmeal- 160 3 26 6
bagel with lox- (estimation 400 10 65 35)
1 cup milk- 120 5 12 8
1 scoop whey -110 1 0 25
1 svg PB -190 16 15 7


Meal2
1.2lb steak- 1094 70 0 110
5oz white pasta -500 2.5 103 17.5

Meal3
2 dbl bacon chsburgers from checkers -1300 84 64 44


Meal4
.5lb steak - 456 29 0 46
.5lb chicken- 234 10 0 36
2 cups brown rice 440 8 82 10
1 cup broccoli 40 0 7 4

Meal5
2 servngs PB&J on WW 560 34 66 22

pre bed
.5lb steak 456 29 0 46

totals : cal 5175 fat 225 carb 450 prot 380

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DAY 5

Meal1
1/2 cup oatmeal 160 3 26 6

Meal2
Beef w/ string beans & white rice
pint of wonton soup
(from chinese restarurant) (estimation 900 40 80 35)

Meal3
.5lb turkey breast on 240 4.5 0 36
ww bread 2oz cheese (mayo) 390 22 36 16


Meal4
1.3lb pork cutlets 712 26 0 114
1 1/2 baked patato 420 0 94 10
1 1/2 cup brussel sprouts 90 0 18 6

Meal5
.5lb pork cutlets 274 10 0 44
1/2 baked potato 140 0 31 3

pre bed
2 servings PB 380 32 30 14
casein in water 110 1 0 25

totals : cal 3819 fat 138 carb 315 prot 309

 

[MGunz]

so what'ya guys think? It should be enough food to grow on right?
On a side note I'v been gaining weight and size pretty steady now. Last 2 weeks have given me some good gains. I know I'm gonna hit a wall at 185 though like I always do. Any suggestions?

 

[vaanwadilion]

That's some impressive eating. I think it takes more discipline to eat like that than restrict calories.

RJ, is there a link to your workout somewhere? I'd like to see the exercises you do and maybe try out what you do

 

[MGunz]

That's some impressive eating. I think it takes more discipline to eat like that than restrict calories.

RJ, is there a link to your workout somewhere? I'd like to see the exercises you do and maybe try out what you do

yeah dude..I'v went on caloric defecit diets before when I lean up for the summer, and trust me its much easier to restrict your calories than force feed every day....
I am typing this as I can barely move..just got back from all you can eat sushi, and those chefs were about ready to go samarai on my ass for eating like I was haha

If your looking for RJ's log I beleive it's in the online journal section.

 

[Deerawk]

I'm not an expert but I have read a shit ton on massing from Arnold and other books as I am a smaller, leaner dude with the exact goals as you. I followed the same program and training thought as you forever too. Not anymore. This is my opinion:

It is 75% easier to gain mass training your entire body 3 days a week or doing a 2 day split routine. I love the gym too, but since I've switched my routine to a 2day split (shoulders,chest,arms/back,legs) my results have been spectacular after a solid year of stagnancy. Those magazine workouts won't do shit for you.
The BIG 7:

Squat
Deadlift
Bent-Over Row
Wide Grip Chins
Bench Press
Barbell Curls
Dips

*...I also like Barbell Shoulder Presses*

Their called the BIG SEVEN for a reason: They get you big. These promote the most growth and tearup the most muscle. Do these 3 days a week, or if you're like me split them up and add a few other exercises to focus on your weak points (extra calves, forearms, traps ect) (A,B,rest,A,B,rest).

If you feel the need to get into the iron on your days off do some core work or choose a day (following a day off) and make it your heavy day where you do a couple of the big seven and get real heavy.

I keep my reps in the 8-10 range because I'm not a big dude and I dont piss around with a a few shit, half form reps with dangerous weight. I'm lookin' for size, my last set might be 5 or 6 but under that is for pure strength if you ask me. I can PM you my routine if you want to take a peek.

IMO, change your routine and with that diet your gonna get bigger. You don't need todo 35 sets on your chest in one sitting. Get in, hit it hard, maximize every single set and get on with your program cuz you'll be back in there, doin the same 2-3times that week. The line between training and overtraining is a VERY thin one.

Basic, compound free-weight exercises are the toughest to perform, but they are by far the most effective at stimulating muscle growth. -Ron Harris, The Encyclopedia Of Bodybuilding

RJ has made some very valuable points:

You don't grow in the gym.
The scale doesn't mean shit. Stay off of it for 6 weeks and it'll move.
Goodluck!

 

[Rougen123]

I'm not an expert but I have read a shit ton on massing from Arnold and other books as I am a smaller, leaner dude with the exact goals as you. I followed the same program and training thought as you forever too. Not anymore. This is my opinion:

It is 75% easier to gain mass training your entire body 3 days a week or doing a 2 day split routine. I love the gym too, but since I've switched my routine to a 2day split (shoulders,chest,arms/back,legs) my results have been spectacular after a solid year of stagnancy. Those magazine workouts won't do shit for you.

IMO I'd credit most if not the majority of your newly acquired gains purely to the fact that you just switched your routine up for the better, meaning that your body was getting acclimated to your old routines and a drastic switch to big muscle groups in compounds exercises was all the help you needed. MGunz is hittin his shit hard, I know he doesn't fuck around. I'd be more interested to hear about the "mass" stuff related to Arnie though, who isn't always willing to listen to advice he has to give?

 

[MGunz]

good posts^

I have been doing a lot less volume on my workouts. Been doing every other day in the gym now, and I lift as heavy as I can without passing out. I literally see stars (not sure how healthy it is, but hey it's working)