I have to change something up

[slicli]

Im on 500mg cyp ew and i am bloated as SHIT....I HATE it, im using cyp cause i get it on insurance but damn, this sux....feel like im fat as shit.

I was thinking about swaping the cyp for prop @ 250mg/week and adding eq @400mg/week....

what do you peps think?


my concern is finding some high quality gear that is smooth and consistant...i am hoping to find some LFC, Quest, or Proline.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Why not just incorporate an anti-aromatase into your cycle to control the water retention. Cut the conversion of test to estrogen.....problem fixed.....

 

[DADAWG]

bump stone colds advice , liquidex is cheap and effective

 

[slicli]

Im running:
adex @ .5 ed
finesteride @.5 ed

I really dont think im the type that can stand the full on bulk cycle, i HATE being above 10%bf and im at about 12% now.

i read that eq is very good at creating hard lean results as well as prop...am i wrong?

 

[slicli]

No takers?

what other brands are high quality, smooth and consistant when i comes to prop and eq?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

i read that eq is very good at creating hard lean results as well as prop...am i wrong?

I agree about the EQ.....but not the test prop. Take away the ester and test is test is test. It still aromatizes at the same rate. Probably the reason that people think they don't hold as much water on test prop is because in most cases, they do lower dosages than with test enathate or cypionate.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

One last point I'd like to make; If you refer to being bloated as shit as going from 10 to 12% body fat......all I can say is WOW.....you have some mighty strict standards....LOL !!

I'd love to get down to 12%.....

 

[Trevdog]

SC is right, test is test is test. I also agree on the anti aromatase. I will be switching to aromosin next time because it is better for lipid profiles, but arimidex controls my water retention well, I only need .25 mg. per day at a gram of test per week.

I use homebrews pretty much exclusively these days so I don't have any real strong opinions on brands. I liked Quality Vet EQ and omnadren.

 

[slicli]

So would droping the test to 200mg and adding eq @ 400mg be a good idea?

Stone, yeah i hear ya, when in my mid to late 20's before i embraced nutrition and weight trainning as a lifestyle change i was a completely different person @ ~25-30%bf and well on my way to letting myself go...but i didnt let that happen and been trying to stay around 8% year round.

Trev, would you consider QV EQ to be smooth and painless? My USA made upjohn cyp is crazy smooth and painless and im worried that im spoiled.

 

[Trevdog]

I missed that you are already running .5 mg arimidex. Well, personally I would hate to see you lower your test dose. Maybe you are sensitive and should consider just raising the arimidex to 1.0 mg. ed.

The QV EQ was painless. What do you mean by smooth?

 

[slicli]

i can keep the test up if eq will harden me and i would be ok to add

smooth i guess is painless while injecting and painless would be no pain after the injection.

 

[GearTripper]

Trev, would you consider QV EQ to be smooth and painless? My USA made upjohn cyp is crazy smooth and painless and im worried that im spoiled.

you may be spoiled... i just took my first Upjohn Cyp shot last week and i damn near didn't even notice it. as for something else being "smooth & painless" ... to each their own; but i liked scherring primo test (never bothered me at all). i also like T400. i always cut it with some deca and never really noticed anyting... but i think i'm in a minority on that one

 

[Green888]

about the test prob. a buddy of mine is currently using 100mg viromone eod and getting leaner every week, im going to try viromone in the future, looks very effective !!

 

[Trevdog]

I've never tried anything that hurt going in, its hours and days later that I may get sore.