CenturionHRT
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Is there any guys out there injecting their T sub-Q? I know a fair amount of guys who are and are happier with doing it that way.
Injecting supplemental doses of testosterone subcutaneously?
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Hi,
I have been injecting sub-q for 2 months E3D with no issues. I have been doing 50mg of test cyp into the abdomen with a 27 gauge 1/2" slin pin.
I started off doing the normal IM shots once a week, but after some bloodwork and consultation I switched to E3D with fantastic results. I could not face pinning E3D IM for eternity. The sub-q is very easy and if done correctly, absolutely painless.
My T is at 494 which is not so high, but my E2 is still in range at 27 with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). When doing once a week IM shots of 100mg, my test was 394 on day 3.5. More importantly I feel fantastic and my libido is off the chart. I have just changed slightly, from yesterday I will do EOD shots of 30mg hoping to get the test up to 600 and keep the E2 under 30.
Cheers
I have been injecting sub-q for 2 months E3D with no issues. I have been doing 50mg of test cyp into the abdomen with a 27 gauge 1/2" slin pin.
I started off doing the normal IM shots once a week, but after some bloodwork and consultation I switched to E3D with fantastic results. I could not face pinning E3D IM for eternity. The sub-q is very easy and if done correctly, absolutely painless.
My T is at 494 which is not so high, but my E2 is still in range at 27 with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). When doing once a week IM shots of 100mg, my test was 394 on day 3.5. More importantly I feel fantastic and my libido is off the chart. I have just changed slightly, from yesterday I will do EOD shots of 30mg hoping to get the test up to 600 and keep the E2 under 30.
Cheers
railrider
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On my 4th month of sub-c shots and the smaller needle is nice. Using 29gX1/2" slin pin.
50mg Test E E3D .5mg Adex/wk divided into 7 doses of liquid compound. 250Iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD. All levels are at Trough and E2 is before the Adex. Test should rise a little after we get E2 under control
Total Test 677 ng/dl
Free Test 150.5 ng/dl
E2 47 pg/ml
50mg Test E E3D .5mg Adex/wk divided into 7 doses of liquid compound. 250Iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD. All levels are at Trough and E2 is before the Adex. Test should rise a little after we get E2 under control
Total Test 677 ng/dl
Free Test 150.5 ng/dl
E2 47 pg/ml
CenturionHRT
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Awesome testimonials guys.......Thanks so much for the feedback............Greens!
Uncle Wormwood
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Can someone layout the differences between intramuscular and subcutaneous injections? Why would someone prefer one to another?
CenturionHRT
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Give me some time and I can get the facts on the matter. Pretty much what happens is T is metabolized faster in a sub-q inject. So you would need to shoot it E3D. Sub q injections need to be smaller doses as well, or you will waste some of your injection. This can cause a smaller peak and therefore smaller trough in blood levels, keeping them more stable. This makes it easier to control E2 which is believed to be the culprit in many downsides of TRT. By keeping E2 in check in a number of ways, some believe this increases testosterone response. So you do not have to take as much to keep your levels in a reasonable range.
Not to mention a subq inject is alot less intrusive than IM. Im not sold either way, just discussing.
Not to mention a subq inject is alot less intrusive than IM. Im not sold either way, just discussing.
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DemoSouthpaw
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Ive read about people having bad reactions bc/the needle didnt go IM but since you guys are doing it guess it was due to dirty gear?. Any thoughts on that? Still...interesting thread *subscribed
CenturionHRT
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what is your current dosing schedule?
CenturionHRT
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They may feel a little sting at the beginning but it should be painless mostly.
Also if you injected too much sub-c I can see it stinging.
vapermedic
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Those little syringes generate incredible amounts of pressure...much more than a larger syringe. It seems counter-intuitive but it's true. I've been using a 1/2 inch 27g needle in a 1cc syringe and it's a little slow but works fine.
Good info on the posts though. I'm waiting for my lab results now but I've been using the above setup for weekly injections and using my glut still. Might look into more frequent schedule, smaller needle and using my abdomen 'cause I'm not sure if I'm going IM or deep SQ.
Good info on the posts though. I'm waiting for my lab results now but I've been using the above setup for weekly injections and using my glut still. Might look into more frequent schedule, smaller needle and using my abdomen 'cause I'm not sure if I'm going IM or deep SQ.
I'd like to read more about the the sub-q option as well.
I have recently started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and I want to follow up with my urologist on the possible sub-q E3D plan.
Right now I am using 200 mg TE every 7 days with Adex .5 on Mon/Thurs.
We are looking at adding HCG as well in the next couple of days.
I have recently started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and I want to follow up with my urologist on the possible sub-q E3D plan.
Right now I am using 200 mg TE every 7 days with Adex .5 on Mon/Thurs.
We are looking at adding HCG as well in the next couple of days.
CenturionHRT
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I would break up my dose E3D to shoot it sub-q. So like 80mg each shot.
How is your current protocol working? How do you feel on it? libido?
Feel fantastic. Never had a libido issue at any point prior or since starting.
Almost through my 4th full month and I have good total T levels between 1560 and 925 ng/dl. This moderates from Monday (injection day) to Sunday.
My free T levels have been great too - between 298 - 351 pg/ml.
We started using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when we started the program b/c I have had estrogen issues in the past when I was younger and cycled for bodybuilding.
I also use 5-AR inhibitor - I have for 16 years to protect my hairline.
Right now, we are looking at HCG but we have not added that yet.
Also looking at the HGH option. Possible protocol would be 3-4 ius M-F. Thoughts?
The sub-q option might really help eliminate a pain in my ass!
CenturionHRT
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LOL-its awesome to hear stories like yours.
it may def help the pain, I hate to tell someone to switch something if its working for them but you will never know if you like something better unless you try it.
HGH is tough. It can only legally be prescribed if you have AGHD. 3 or 4 hormones would have to test low and igf-1 would also need to be low.
HCG is great but if your feeling good you may not need it, unless you want it for cosmetic reasons.
If you try the sub q let us know how you like it.
it may def help the pain, I hate to tell someone to switch something if its working for them but you will never know if you like something better unless you try it.
HGH is tough. It can only legally be prescribed if you have AGHD. 3 or 4 hormones would have to test low and igf-1 would also need to be low.
HCG is great but if your feeling good you may not need it, unless you want it for cosmetic reasons.
If you try the sub q let us know how you like it.
RA64
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What kind of Test are you using to do the SubQ, Cyp?
CenturionHRT
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You can use any Testosterone sub Q. If you try to inject more than 100mg at once though you may end up wasting some of your shot. Thats why this would only be practical for legitimate testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) purposes.
I actually spoke with someone on the phone tonight that said his 200mg cyp weekly shot is not doing anything for him anymore. I think this has to do with the fact that his levels are up and down too much. The idea behind this protocol is to give you more even T levels in hopes to reduce estrogen conversion, in turn increasing T response. If anybody out there decides to switch to this protocol please give us your feedback. I suggest running 150iu EOD if you decide to do it this way. I also suggest dividing up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose and taking it on days that you inject HCG.
I actually spoke with someone on the phone tonight that said his 200mg cyp weekly shot is not doing anything for him anymore. I think this has to do with the fact that his levels are up and down too much. The idea behind this protocol is to give you more even T levels in hopes to reduce estrogen conversion, in turn increasing T response. If anybody out there decides to switch to this protocol please give us your feedback. I suggest running 150iu EOD if you decide to do it this way. I also suggest dividing up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose and taking it on days that you inject HCG.
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