Is clomid bad?

Currently running post cycle therapy (pct) using Clomid. Sometimes when looking at the computer screen my eyes will start to focus funny(hard to explain) sorta like its spinning but i blink a few times and it stops. Nothing that worrys me...
 
apex said:
Currently running post cycle therapy (pct) using Clomid. Sometimes when looking at the computer screen my eyes will start to focus funny(hard to explain) sorta like its spinning but i blink a few times and it stops. Nothing that worrys me...

ummm...you think it's the clomid that does that?? does that only happen at the computer screen?
 
Horrible fucking drug. I'd say 90% of the people who use it, do so because they think they should -- not because it works so well. Most people who recover from Clomid do so over the course of weeks-- after they would have recovered anyway without anything.

A-dex, Proviron, and PF.coms "Post-Cycle" are all much better options.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Horrible fucking drug. I'd say 90% of the people who use it, do so because they think they should -- not because it works so well. Most people who recover from Clomid do so over the course of weeks-- after they would have recovered anyway without anything.

A-dex, Proviron, and PF.coms "Post-Cycle" are all much better options.

I realise it could do some harm but lets say you use 25mg at bed time for a week or two along with "post cycle" from PF. Wouldn't the negative sides of clomid not be an issue?
 
I hated clomid so much because of the depression it causes for me and you feel all emotional like a girl. But I made a huge mistake by not taking after my last cycle....it took forever to recover , that is why I have waited so long to start my current cycle. I will definitely be taking it this time.
 
SweetLeaf said:
I realise it could do some harm but lets say you use 25mg at bed time for a week or two along with "post cycle" from PF. Wouldn't the negative sides of clomid not be an issue?


Just go ahead and try it, it appears you don't want to listen anyways.
 
StoneColdNTO said:
Just go ahead and try it, it appears you don't want to listen anyways.

Exactly who am i not willing to listen to? All responses vary...I wanted Nelson's opinion on the use of Clomid in small amounts.
 
I hate Clomid for several reasons, the worst being that it kills my libido. Yeah, I know, I know, some people say it helps libido, but I have to wonder about that. Sometimes a surge in estrogen can help libido -- that doesn't mean I want more of it.

I also can not understand how anyone thinks it helps in recovery and normalization of the HPTA. It really doesn't. There are a lot of factors involved in recovery, or non-recovery.

Sweetleaf: If you aren't adverse to Clomid, use a lower dosage along with the PC. It can only help. But I still say, if you're super prone to high e, then use the PC along with a little proviron and/or A-dex. It's a much better choice.
 
after my cycle of Viramone test and Primobolan, im gonna use nolvadex for post cycle therapy (pct) - after advise from members of different boards. I too don't want the sides of clomid.....How can Arimidex help post cycle therapy (pct)? I was gonna use that if i become bloated during my cycle, but didn't know it could be use full during post cycle therapy (pct)......
 
I am also worried about sided from clomid i.e. acne depression emotional etc how would nolva or proviron be used instead ?
 
I also can not understand how anyone thinks it helps in recovery and normalization of the HPTA. It really doesn't. There are a lot of factors involved in recovery, or non-recovery.
Have to disagree with you there Nelson.

There are a lot of bad things we can say about clomid: acne, moodiness, low libido, visual disturbance, liver damage.

But we can't say it doesn't help recovery. It really does.
 
After my first cycle of Apex t350 - 8 week course (1.5ML per week) I took clomid ( two weeks after last jab). I am now 5 weeks on from ending the last cycle and have kept nearly all of my strength gains, lost a bit of size but think that was due to water retention. The only effects that I got from clomid were visual. I could only describe them as being shadowy black lines dancing infront of you, kinda like having stars in your eyes but with the lines. This was only ever in the morning and since coming off clomid it has all stopped!!

Decreased libido is gonna happen when you come off anyway cos you've jacked yourself with shit loads of testosterone for the last god knows how many weeks!! Trick is to wean yourself off the kit 2-3 weeks before last jab, this helps your body to prepare for a complete lack of extra testosterone when you finish jabbing. APex pharma rules! oh and the sore jab sites are only from when you jab in the wrong place. Get a body map from google to help explain where to put it. An inch or two out and you can hit a vessel, thats when it gets a bit sore!
 
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