Is my gear legit? Vets please

Matthew121

Matthew121

I am banned!
Ok so I am carrying this over from a different thread.


I am 18 days into a prop cycle, @ 100mg ED.

I started @ 208lbs, I am now at 216lbs in alittle over 2 weeks.

At this rate if It stays like this I will be set to gain 30ish lbs.
This being said I have someone telling me my gear is underdosed...

I have mad bacne, agression, and hard on's all the time.

This is the first time Ive had prop and Im only 2.5 weeks in so I guess Im not really sure whats typical to have gained at this point.


( I am 26yrs old, been training for a couple years, only cycled test E before for 10 weeks)
 
If its UG then its prbly underdosed but its not fake

All that water retention shows theres definitely some test in there
 
Yea thats what the other guy was saying. He said its prolly Legit, but its way underdosed.
I just dont see how gaining 4lbs a week would be that terribly underdosed gear..
 
You are gaining weight...and seem to have sides..some which are just in your head at 18 days in but.whats the problem? Stop listening to your friends....and what gear are you doing btw?
 
Look your gear is obviously g2g but if you want to know if it's underdosed then ask yourself do you have PIP (post injection pain)? Correctly dosed prop is gonna be a little painful. Get some good raw and make u a 100mg/ml batch there is a difference.

That really is not the most important thing so just keep eating & fuck all the other noise bro, get your grow on!!! Eat + Work out + Rest + keep any bloat or puffy nips in check with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) + be on point with post cycle therapy (pct) = Keep as much as possible
 
Where do you guys get this info?

Prop is not painful properly dosed. I never have pain from it and that includes making it myself at a higher dose. Some people have PIP but just as many don't at all, ever. And it has nothing to do with dosing.

UGL's the majority of the time OVER dose their products to make a name and to make sure it's atleast at label dosing. Yes there are other who under dose but saying something is under dosed because it's UGL is far from the truth. Hg gear is nice, but plenty of that is painful. I know of several ugl's who have gear that's made just as good as hg.

It sounds like it's perfectly fine. If libido is up and you have noticed any gains in the first two weeks then it sounds like it's perfectly fine.

Why is someone saying it's bunk? Is that person running the same gear, or have they? What's the brand?

I wouldn't worry about what others say if you are seeing results.
 
Well Im not trying to call the other guy out, it was a discussion on this board in another thread. He had told me before that this gear wasn't bunk just underdosed.
I experiance ZERO Pip with it. I have read if its mixed just right there is no pip, I have also read how to eliminate pip when brewing. So no pip does not = bunk gear. I know that.
I personally figured 8 lbs in 2.5weeks was pretty legit.
Nothing in my diet or routine has changed since I cycled. It is all the exact same.
So I am saying this gear is g2g. He told me that @ 700mg a week, he would expect 20+lbs in 18days with legit dosed gear eating 2500 cals a day.....

They have not ran the same gear, they have talked to other people who ran it. The other one who did was complaining that he wasn't seeing too much from it. Obviously thats not the case for me.

To me it seemed nuts to expect more than a 30lb gain from a test only cycle.
I mean I gained 27 with my last and everyone told me that was really good.

So I was just kind of dumbfounded when I was told 8lbs in 2.5 weeks means its under dosed.... I dont have alot of experiance so thats why I made the thread.

Thanks for the insight guys. I figured this gear was g2g, and I am proving it is. lol.
I am also at about a 15% strength increase this far. I am impressed and happy with it.
Just wanted to verify that the results I am getting thus far are what I should be expecting.
 
What gear is it? Gains seem good to me and all the tale tale signs are there. You shouldn't go off of what others say in most cases when your able to see first hand how your body reacts.
 
Everything you are saying is indicative of good and legit gear.

Just because it is UG doesn't mean it is not meeting label claim for mg per ml. It may very well exceed label claim for all we know.
 
User that was some good info. Ive been mistaken then with a lot of my thoughts on ugl. Thanks for the clarification. And Matthew I think that you're buddy is a tad jealous and putting in your head seeing that you on your way to gain a good 30 lbs. Keep it up!
 
Gains depend on your diet even on gear. 8 lbs in 2 weeks is legit plus you have sides. You're g2g. If you really want to find out go get bloodwork done. Unless you're 130 lbs you're not gonna gain 20+ off 2500 cals in that short amount of time and even at 130 you wouldn't unless it's all water and fat and a little muscle. I don't care if you're running the best prop and tren ever made, 2500 cals doesn't equal 20+ lbs in 18 days. Not possible unless you're bloated like a motherfucker and eating big macs all day.
 
UserAt204 said:
Where do you guys get this info?

Prop is not painful properly dosed. I never have pain from it and that includes making it myself at a higher dose. Some people have PIP but just as many don't at all, ever. And it has nothing to do with dosing.

UGL's the majority of the time OVER dose their products to make a name and to make sure it's atleast at label dosing. Yes there are other who under dose but saying something is under dosed because it's UGL is far from the truth. Hg gear is nice, but plenty of that is painful. I know of several ugl's who have gear that's made just as good as hg.

It sounds like it's perfectly fine. If libido is up and you have noticed any gains in the first two weeks then it sounds like it's perfectly fine.

Why is someone saying it's bunk? Is that person running the same gear, or have they? What's the brand?

I wouldn't worry about what others say if you are seeing results.
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What he said... ^^^
 
Yea my diet is right around 32-3500 cals a day. I live a very seditary life style out side of when I lift. I do hiit cardio for 15 mins 3x a week after a lift session.
Im 6'3" Now at 216lbs. Im not a huge guy. But Ive got a real decent build Im not very small thats for sure.
 
And 8 lbs in 18 days is great. Like mentioned above it's all about consumption of food. You could use gear, eat 1-2k cals and will lose weight instead of gaining.

If someone is gaining 20 pounds in 18 days I'd really like to see that. I'm lucky to gain 10-15 pounds on a cycle with more compounds then you these days. I have gained more but my days of just adding as much weight as possible are done. And I'm lucky to gain 2-5 pounds in 18 days even with SE gear. Always been that way for me.
 
I am the one who didn't see any gains from the same gear. I figure it's not really the same gear, just the same label. Mine was definitely just ethyl oleate because I had very little in the way of a lump or pip

I got some more from someone else, and the label matches the safebuy image.

Now I am confounded: SO MUCH PAIN!!
 
BBWLoveJones said:
I am the one who didn't see any gains from the same gear. I figure it's not really the same gear, just the same label. Mine was definitely just ethyl oleate because I had very little in the way of a lump or pip

I got some more from someone else, and the label matches the safebuy image.

Now I am confounded: SO MUCH PAIN!!
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You shouldn't be getting a lump from any quality gear whether it has EO in it or not.

Also, EO is way too expensive and I doubt they would only put that in there to fool someone.
 
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