Is this possible complication or just typical front load???

[ridgeback]

Well I started my new cycle today and I could be the perfect candidate for the test flu as I am going to front load it this week.

This was today as follows:

50 mg's D-bol
250 mg's Sustanon
250 mg's Test E
100mg's Tren Ace.
300 mg's EQ

Remeber this is just for front load and this will happen again in 3 days, then I will level the cycle out for a lower dose and a longer period, I plan to be on for 24 weeks.

 

[3J]

whow.. 24 weeks??? 6 month cycle???

could you break down when and how long your gonna take what?

iv heard of people running for 6 months on, 6 months off... it's a bit scary to me unless i decide to go Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for the rest of my life, which is something ill do at the age of 40..

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

It sounds like the tren cough. Tren acetate at that dose would be pretty rough. Test flu is no good ether.

Front loading is very bad science. It almost always ends up being the cause for the test flu and bad side effects. I'm wondering why you would do this. You show so much promise with your knowledge and discipline of Diet and nutrition .

I've enjoyed it. This is disappointing to me. If you want to kick start a cycle run a short ester for the first 4-6 weeks. I'm a fan of short low dose cycles. They are easier on the body and tend to show good solid gains you can keep.

I'd watch your bp. If it jumps take an no2 product at 2g a day. It will keep you bp down. Hope you feel better. I tended to loose 5 pounds with the test flu. Not how i like to start a cycle.

Keep us posted good luck.

 

[3J]

It sounds like the tren cough. Tren acetate at that dose would be pretty rough. Test flu is no good ether.

Front loading is very bad science. It almost always ends up being the cause for the test flu and bad side effects. I'm wondering why you would do this. You show so much promise with your knowledge and discipline of Diet and nutrition .

I've enjoyed it. This is disappointing to me. If you want to kick start a cycle run a short ester for the first 4-6 weeks. I'm a fan of short low dose cycles. They are easier on the body and tend to show good solid gains you can keep.

I'd watch your bp. If it jumps take an no2 product at 2g a day. It will keep you bp down. Hope you feel better. I tended to loose 5 pounds with the test flu. Not how i like to start a cycle.

Keep us posted good luck.

yes, yes my friend.. i dont believe i'll be doing this again.. lol...

i work in the medical field... so i have been keeping track of my vitals.. as of right now my only issue is my heart rate...

this is advice taken from another board where they actually promote front loading... it's also my first time im using test e.. i like to use sust or prop, which wouldn't call for a front load in the first place...


a hard lesson learned, that's for sure...

as for the test flu jacking me up.. im still able to hit the gym.. still able to function.. actually when i think of it the first time i did a cycle i got the test flu from 500mg of sust a week.. i was in bed for 2 days asleep with a fever and such.. this isn't as bad actually...

BUT... nevertheless... it wont be happening again...

im all about doing things right, but no ones perfect.. we all make mistakes, this was mine...


again.. thx alot for all the advice..

 

[ridgeback]

Week 2 - 8:
50 mg's D-bol ED
50 mg's tren ED
500 mg's Sustanon/week
400 mg's EQ/week
250 mg's Test E/week

Weeks 8-16
800 mg's Test E/week
600 mg's EQ/week
50 mg's Tren ED

weeks 16-24
500 mg'sTest E/week
300 mg's Masteron prop./week
30 mg's Anavar ED

I run 20 mg's of Nolvadex all the way through, I have A-dex and Letro on hand if need be and PCT is waiting( Clomid, proviron and still sourcing HCG)

Yes it looks crazy but I will be shreaded come June. Oh ya and a crazy diet too!!

 

[MMA732]

I agree with these guys bro, tren gives the cough along with sweats, at 1g a week, heart rate will def be up, I found the rise in libido to be rather interesting. Remember testosterone is a clear color more or less, tren is like a yellow sort of color LOL. Altough test prop is known to give people the coughs at times as well. Test can cause a fever through, especially when front-loading, bp sounds to be the high sides. There could be many factors involved from what I have gathered to be frank. Hope you feel well soon bro.

 

[3J]

holy shit thats one hell of a cycle...


i'd like to look over that diet of yours if your interested..

 

[ridgeback]

I want you to build me one!! I will get those stats for you hopefully by tomorrow, I'm in sales and really busy right now, gym in the real early AM and late to home so I will get on that right away for you, think of me as your new project!

 

[3J]

I agree with these guys bro, tren gives the cough along with sweats, at 1g a week, heart rate will def be up, I found the rise in libido to be rather interesting. Remember testosterone is a clear color more or less, tren is like a yellow sort of color LOL. Altough test prop is known to give people the coughs at times as well. Test can cause a fever through, especially when front-loading, bp sounds to be the high sides. There could be many factors involved from what I have gathered to be frank. Hope you feel well soon bro.

i think i need to make something clear.. I HAVN'T INJECTED TREN.. the sides are just a bit similar.. got me paranoid for a sec...

my bp currently is 140/78... just checked it..

where as it's a little high, it's not high enough for concern...

i have never coughed from prop.. tren makes me cough like an old cigarette smoking man...

im guessing the cough is coming from the test flu, seeing as how there is no congestion in my lungs bilaterally...

currently.. if i could go back and just run 500mg a week, that's exctly what i would do..

 

[3J]

I want you to build me one!! I will get those stats for you hopefully by tomorrow, I'm in sales and really busy right now, gym in the real early AM and late to home so I will get on that right away for you, think of me as your new project!

looking forward to it...

 

[RJ]

Ive always been curious as to why anyone would frontload. Is the idea just to raise blood serum levels quickly? I guess i just don't understand the logic.

As for you, I've gotten test flu with 500mg/w start ups. I'm not 100% sure test flu is due to the influx of large quantities... i think its more what your body is comfortable doing at that moment. Sometimes our bodies just reject.

Either way, good luck.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Ive always been curious as to why anyone would frontload. Is the idea just to raise blood serum levels quickly?

Yes....it's that simple.

 

[3J]

i woke up this morning feeling better ... im sure it'll progress this way... rhr was 90... better then the 120 24 hours ago... ill keep you guys posted.. i guess i can make this thread a log of the sides so people better understand the ups and downs of frontloading.. seems it's all downs right now..

 

[3J]

okay guys.. here's an update... took my first 250mg shot after my 1 g front load yesterday..

my rhr upon waking was still 90bpm.... my bp in the afternoon was 152/93... a bit higher then the day before.... i still have a cough.. but the light headedness has gone away.. the nasty sick feeling is also creeping away and i believe my body is getting used to the test...

today i woke up with a rhr of 82... this was taken by a sp02 machine...

my bp was just taken and it's 146/78.. my baseline bp ranges from the 120-130/ 60-80...

im starting to feel the test in the gym due to the amazing pumps im getting...

ill keep you guys posted for another coupla weeks..

 

[Tpowered]

Glad I found this thread. I know it's old. But I did the exact same thing with frontloading 1G the first week. Holy shit, fuck that. Never going to frontload again. I'll stick to shorter esters if I need a quick response. Anyways. Thanks for the info. I have the exact same symptoms as your describing.