Just received round 2 of my bloodwork 25y/o Male

[RayLewisDidNotDoIt]

So in a separate thread I stated my results were :

Total Test - 324
Free Test 85.6

More panels were done and here are the results:


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Just thought I would share, comments & advice appreciated. I'll see the endo in 2 weeks, I think this will be the start of life long TRT

 

[Megatron28]

looks like Secondary Hypogonadism.

 

[Alpin]

So in a separate thread I stated my results were :

Total Test - 324
Free Test 85.6

More panels were done and here are the results:


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Just thought I would share, comments & advice appreciated. I'll see the endo in 2 weeks, I think this will be the start of life long TRT

Don't hold your breath.
your Free T and Bio Avail.T are in range.
Do you have any info on this doc you're seeing?
They may be opposed to replacement. ..

 

[Alpin]

My bio avail.T was 92.2 ng/dl (lower than yours).
TT in the low 400's. Same LH and FSH roughly.
Free Test was below range too.

 

[RayLewisDidNotDoIt]

My bio avail.T was 92.2 ng/dl (lower than yours).
TT in the low 400's. Same LH and FSH roughly.
Free Test was below range too.

So what's that mean for me?

 

[Alpin]

So what's that mean for me?

Let's wait and see.

 

[Chiefy]

So what's that mean for me?

It means that you may have a tough time finding a doctor willing to treat you. It's not unheard of, but your age coupled with the fact that your levels technically fall within the range is likely going to make it difficult.

Your T levels are on the low end of normal. Many doctors aren't comfortable treating a patient with those numbers at any age. Being that you're 25, it's even less likely that a doctor will be willing to treat.

Again, it's not completely impossible, just difficult. You never know, the first doctor that you see might be a good one. For most guys in your position though, that's usually not the case.

 

[Alpin]

With your recent labs...
Your TT at 276 ng/dl.......
only 129 ng/dl of that is "Bio available" and actually doing the job in the androgen receptors of your body.

 

[RayLewisDidNotDoIt]

It means that you may have a tough time finding a doctor willing to treat you. It's not unheard of, but your age coupled with the fact that your levels technically fall within the range is likely going to make it difficult.

Your T levels are on the low end of normal. Many doctors aren't comfortable treating a patient with those numbers at any age. Being that you're 25, it's even less likely that a doctor will be to treat.

Again, it's not completely impossible, just difficult. You never know, the first doctor that you see might be a good one. For most guys in your position though, that's usually not the case.

Well the only reason I ever know about TRT is because she already brought up me thinking about which one to use, injections or the gel. That's the reason I even found out about this forum.

 

[RayLewisDidNotDoIt]

With your recent labs...
Your TT at 276 ng/dl.......
only 129 ng/dl of that is "Bio available" and actually doing the job in the androgen receptors of your body.

The way you word that it doesn't sound like that's good news for me. This could be the reason ( I feel ) for many things. Such as my difficulty losing weight(fat). Difficulty putting on muscle. The depression I was diagnoses several years ago. My inability to have as much energy as I feel I should, always tired and drained --even when I haven't done anything strenuous.

 

[Alpin]

The way you word that it doesn't sound like that's good news for me. This could be the reason ( I feel ) for many things. Such as my difficulty losing weight(fat). Difficulty putting on muscle. The depression I was diagnoses several years ago. My inability to have as much energy as I feel I should, always tired and drained --even when I haven't done anything strenuous.

I've only ran a few hundred blood labs, spent years reading up on this science. But what do I know.
I have 1 critic on this forum (that I know of) who says I don't know what I'm talking about half the time and "potentially giving dangerous advice". (See Bronx's much debated thread in the TRT section).
You'll see what I'm referring to.
So I need to tread carefully here....
I'll let othets chime in their two cents.

 

[Alpin]

Well the only reason I ever know about TRT is because she already brought up me thinking about which one to use, injections or the gel. That's the reason I even found out about this forum.

Who are you referring too when you say "she"?

 

[Chiefy]

Well the only reason I ever know about TRT is because she already brought up me thinking about which one to use, injections or the gel. That's the reason I even found out about this forum.

Ahh I see, well that's a good start. Consider yourself very lucky that your doctor is willing to entertain the idea of treatment.

Hopefully she's up to speed on current best practices when it comes to TRT. Avoid the gels/creams, go with injections if you decide to start treatment. No less frequent than once per week, and be sure to talk to your doctor about hCG.

 

[Jimstigator]

APOLLON - I think you and Ray are mis-reading each others posts. I don't detect any beef here.

I would agree - he might have trouble with some Drs, but not all. Finding the right one will get you whatever treatment you want - be it a restart, TRT, etc. Almost anyone on the planet would feel like garbage with Ray's numbers. Not to dampen the mood, but I saw 5 endos and a few GPs before I was finally started on the right track.

-Jim

 

[RayLewisDidNotDoIt]

Who are you referring too when you say "she"?

She = My Endo

Also in my other post I wasn't trying to insult you. Perhaps I mis-read the tone of your post, when I first read your post in regards to my numbers... I took that as you saying "wow those aren't good".

 

[Black Beard]

Your brain isnt asking for much testosterone, like megatron said probably secondary aka central hypogonadism. Could be caused by head trauma, infections and stuff. Basically, it's probably not your balls, but your brain not telling your balls to make testosterone. Something like hcg might work by itself, but whem the leydig cells are in a dormant state for too long, they tend to atrophy and lose their potency. The longer your testes are producing low testosterone, the
Less they will work once you "wake them up".

 

[RayLewisDidNotDoIt]

Your brain isnt asking for much testosterone, like megatron said probably secondary aka central hypogonadism. Could be caused by head trauma, infections and stuff. Basically, it's probably not your balls, but your brain not telling your balls to make testosterone. Something like hcg might work by itself, but whem the leydig cells are in a dormant state for too long, they tend to atrophy and lose their potency. The longer your testes are producing low testosterone, the
Less they will work once you "wake them up".

Thank you for putting that into laymen terms. Would the general consensus at this point in a mans life be to start TRT?