STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
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Just starting clomid and wondering if this will help at the gym
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STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
Doesn't matter man, stick with the Clomid and see how you go after 6 weeks via bloodtests/gauging how you feel.
Ask your doc if he will consider injections along with an aromatase inhibitor... If not, stick it out with the Clomid and see if you can find a doc in the meantime that wants to help you.
Ask your doc if he will consider injections along with an aromatase inhibitor... If not, stick it out with the Clomid and see if you can find a doc in the meantime that wants to help you.
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
Yeah, if you are trying to have kids, testosterone could make it harder. Clomid can significantly increase testosterone but it is also an estrogen agonist, which means it activates certain estrogen receptors in your body and blocks others. So you may "feel" like you have high estrogen, which sucks. They are developing a type of clomid that only blocks estrogen, its still in development. I would get wifey knocked up quick and then jump on some good trt protocol. AI like staunched said and maybe some hcg. Nothing bests real testosterone, wether from the vial or your sack.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
it may help, but dont expect crazy results. do the clomid and go for blood work. good luck!
why not add nolva ???
an AI right now is too early with test being low your estrogen cant be that much higher, and even if you are using clomid, test wouldnt be increased like it would if you inject test so therefor estrogen might get a little higher on clomid but not nearly as much as it would on injetions, so running an AI i dunno about that but nolva wouldnt that be his best bet ?
an AI right now is too early with test being low your estrogen cant be that much higher, and even if you are using clomid, test wouldnt be increased like it would if you inject test so therefor estrogen might get a little higher on clomid but not nearly as much as it would on injetions, so running an AI i dunno about that but nolva wouldnt that be his best bet ?
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
From memory it is one of the isomers of Clomiphene, so already developed but I believe they are undergoing approval for treatment of hypogonadism. In that case, Clomid would be superior to any other SERM for HPTA restoral. It's not that I am against Clomid, it works damn well, but the sides for most people outweigh any benefits as a monotherapy and makes for a harsher time during PCT.
But yes, nothing beats real Test
I think the question is why add nolva? It isn't as strong as blocking negative feedback like Clomid and is unnecessary, it may help but for what it is worth, well. The only SERMs that should be used if the primary purpose is to treat hypogonadism or for a PCT drug is either Clomiphene or Toremifene. Things like Tamoxifen and Raloxifene do work at stimulating the HPTA, but to a far lesser extent (Raloxifene even less so than Tamoxifen).
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
That would be my game plan if I was in your scenario.
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
If you were in PCT then that would be the case (well that is the goal).
Some people have found Clomid did raise their T back to normal levels however typically this is people who have had low T from AAS use. Most people have found that the raised T goes when the Clomid goes though.
Some people have found Clomid did raise their T back to normal levels however typically this is people who have had low T from AAS use. Most people have found that the raised T goes when the Clomid goes though.
yes just started 3 days ago. doing 50mg ed. ill give an update in a few weeks see how its going
Alpin
New member
You've taken 2 doses so far?
Keep at this dose as doc prescribed and run labs to see where your: LH, FSH, TT, E2.
If you feel emotional sides etc try to continue if they are no big deal or you could go down to 25 mg EOD.
But 50 mg EOD is fairly well tolerated.
Good luck and let us know.
Alpin
New member
It usually keeps T in mid range at very least for a month or so then it tanks out after 3 months.
I hear depression is one. But that might be when guys get off Test.
Pacific Rim
New member
You could try pulling a fast one on your Dr. By not taking the Clomid and telling him you did. Then when you get your blood work back, and he realizes your Test is still low ask him for injectible.
Or go to a different Dr or look underground.
