Zeek
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What is the point you are trying to make here? I sure don't see one in your post
High normal is ideal for test levels IMO. A guy will feel great with a strong sex drive and slight aggressiveness which are all strong male traits. Both the guys u callout for bad info are actually on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) through their doctors also
Can you get by with less, sure? but why the hell go through life like that if you don't have to?
High normal is ideal for test levels IMO. A guy will feel great with a strong sex drive and slight aggressiveness which are all strong male traits. Both the guys u callout for bad info are actually on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) through their doctors also
Can you get by with less, sure? but why the hell go through life like that if you don't have to?
Its true there are no spesific tests that can confirm symptoms are due to "low" test alone -One is a blood test and the other is by characteristic symptoms and signs, and the correlation between those two methods is far from perfect.
To rely on patients subjective notions would be totally unproffessional, as there are multiple diffrent reasons people may feel like shit - "low" test just beeing one of them.
In this case - OP said nothing about feeling like shit either -
and has avarage normal test levels.
Testosterone treatment making you feel "better" - doesnt necessarily mean or confirm in any way that alone was the cause of symptoms.
Besides exogene test may very well be just the reason you feel like shit, because of fluctuations in a bunch of different hormones - or an inbalance rather after a cycle.
Sometimes leading to mild depressions even.
The Endocrine Society* considers low testosterone to be a total testosterone level of less than 300 ng/dl, and I think a reasonable guide. But no one quite agrees on a number. Its not like diabetes, where if your fasting glucose is above a certain level, With testosterone, that break point is not quite as clear.
A lot of this is being driven by the drug industry because clearly they want docs to prescribe their treatments.'
Ofcourse you would feel better on higher Testosterone levels -
but does that mean that its a pathological condition or not normal to have slight lower test levels?
That you need treatment?
Ofcourse not!
PhatBastard and Bullseye: Youre talking crap!