Lab test results

It would be nice to have a little machine (like diabetics have) where we can put a drop of blood on it and see what our test and estro levels were. That would be sweet. Every gym bag would have one I'm sure.
 
Yeah I am 24.2 now so I might be a bit low to begin with I guess. My paper says 7.6-42.6 is the reference interval, but I dont think that is right. Seems kinda extreme in both directions.

most of those numbers are kind of extreme. It all depends on the person though. Bullseye likes his at 25 or above. I like mine right around 22.

What was your hematocrit it was i meant to ask.
 
"yea 422 is within the normal range by doctors standards,but its how you feel,mine was something like 214,got it up to around 487 still nothing,and eventually now he trys to keep it in the 800 range,and I feel so much better,just like i was in my early 20's again"

Could it possibly be because steroid abuse has desensitized the hpta?

800 in ur dumbass equals same level as Dylans 400 for instance.
Doesnt mean higher test makes you feel better.
What the hell does feel like a 20yr old again really mean?

Full of inacuracies and subjective beliefs.
A typical ignorant!

Ahhh cant help myself! :biggthump

Dylan: Diet is everything!
I thought i had my diet dialed in - i was wrong.
You can easily reach 220 lbs without any steroids for instance.
And one other thing:
Shorter cycles and good post cycle therapy (pct) is even more important than the cycle itself.
Prove is in the dumbasses on TRT.
 
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"yea 422 is within the normal range by doctors standards,but its how you feel,mine was something like 214,got it up to around 487 still nothing,and eventually now he trys to keep it in the 800 range,and I feel so much better,just like i was in my early 20's again"

Could it possibly be because steroid abuse has desensitized the hpta?

800 in ur dumbass equals same level as Dylans 400 for instance.
Doesnt mean higher test makes you feel better.
What the hell does feel like a 20yr old again really mean?

Full of inacuracies and subjective beliefs.
A typical ignorant!

Ahhh cant help myself! :biggthump

Dylan: Diet is everything!
I thought i had my diet dialed in - i was wrong.
You can easily reach 220 lbs without any steroids for instance.
And one other thing:
Shorter cycles and good PCT is even more important than the cycle itself.
Prove is in the dumbasses on TRT.
For your info dude,i don't abuse anything esp steroids!!!!!! ive been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) 5 years,I ve done 3 Test only cycles,and 1 Test/Deca cycle.....in 5 years dumbass,thats not abuse,,unless its in your doctors manual or whatever the fuck you read,i take care of myself,see my doctor when i supposed to etc,so im not "guessing" i shut down my htpa,my age has affected my T levels,not abuse you fucktard,so just stay the fuck out of my business,I dont wanna hear anymore of your bullshit,NONE!!!!:flamingma....There is no need for this crap,and telling Dylan all of your crap is not right either,you arent a fucking specialist.......oh and feeling like a 20 year old again means just what it says!!!!! no pains,all the energy in the world etc...you get it shithead.....so go fuck off somewhere dude....
 
Listen you ignorant fuck:

If ur hpta is fucked up - and even hormonal receptor downregulation and desensitization has occured - Its because of abuse.

Ur in denial!

And even if you only have juiced 4 times - you fucked up in regards to doses and/or pct - and perhaps too long cycles.

Point is there always is a chance you could fuck up your hpta with steroid abuse.
Wich is what you should be telling guys.

Your age my ass!

Who are you trying to fool?
Trying to act like your shit dont stink.
F.U!

Guys like you giving advice is a big fucking joke!
I would advice newbies to read for them selfs and gather as much information as possible - always be critical to things you read on the internet - specially coming from ignorant fucks like this guy reciting shit he reads like a fucking parrot.

One other thing asswhipe:
Experience dont count for shit if you dont understand whats going on!
Thats how people get hurt.

No wonder guys in general have all these illusions and weird ideas about steroids - thinking they have magical properties or smth.

Enough said. :flipoffha
 
Listen you ignorant fuck:

If ur hpta is fucked up - and even hormonal receptor downregulation and desensitization has occured - Its because of abuse.

Ur in denial!

And even if you only have juiced 4 times - you fucked up in regards to doses and/or pct - and perhaps too long cycles.

Point is there always is a chance you could fuck up your hpta with steroid abuse.
Wich is what you should be telling guys.

Your age my ass!

Who are you trying to fool?
Trying to act like your shit dont stink.
F.U!

Guys like you giving advice is a big fucking joke!
I would advice newbies to read for them selfs and gather as much information as possible - always be critical to things you read on the internet - specially coming from ignorant fucks like this guy reciting shit he reads like a fucking parrot.

One other thing asswhipe:
Experience dont count for shit if you dont understand whats going on!
Thats how people get hurt.

No wonder guys in general have all these illusions and weird ideas about steroids - thinking they have magical properties or smth.

Enough said. :flipoffha

Im tired of your bullshit!!! extremely tired of it you fucking troll,im not repsonding again to any of your "scientific knowledge",personal attacks etc,it just shows you are the young ass hole who is mr. know it all,so in other words,FUCK YOU AND THE DAMN HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!!!

Have fun keep on showing your ass on here,im done with your shit.....so go FUCK OFF!!:devil:
 
Wow what a thread. My only question is where do you get you facts from deranged? Textbooks, studies, personal experience? How many cycles have you ran? Are you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) personally? A doctor, med student? Just wondering because you're discrediting alot of vets on this site and you seem to have a vast knowledge on this subject.
 
Dumbasses? Dude you havent a fuckin clue how it feels to have low T and the affects it has on an older guy,no fuckin clue!!!! so take your doctors book,ideas,text book research,internet reports and stick them so far up your ass you can taste them when you open you mouth!!!!!:gives:


true i swear its damn true dude am anewbie on these stuff but i was 215Ng-dl
and i got adavice to take anti estro to boost testo
and it i feeled damn good after aweek
srsly try to be in low testo and tell us how do u feel
i feeled like ashit man ashiiiiit!!!
aman with atears srsly
sorry for my english
 
WOW I can't believe what I just read... It is deranged opinion that everyone who has test in the "normal" range and doesn't feel good must have a desensitized hpta due to steroid abuse. Hilarious!!

Now I do agree that doctors can't just take a patients subjective opinion about how they feel and turn it into a diagnosis. But they absolutely must take the patients feeling of well being in combination with physical evidence (ie lower test) in order to both make a diagnosis and a treatment plan.

There are many reasons for low test in males even those who have never taken any exo test. There are just as many or more reasons for hpta system to not be functioning properly doesn't mean necessarily the hpta is desensitized due to steroid abuse.

As for your opinion about a doctor's professionalism...I personally have never ever been to a doctor's office without the first question from the doctor being, "How are you feeling or what's troubling you" and then the doctor uses that info as a guide to search for causes. I know that no one in here was suggesting that the OP be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of his life if he is feeling fine. Or if he is feeling bad but if he or someone else is feeling like crap and has low test and no other symptoms then guess what he might need TRT. The simple fact is there are people who have to be on some chemical, hormone, or drug forever to feel normal. Diabetics are a perfect example. Sad but true.

In the future...try not to get so emotional when you are trying to prove your point on a board. Just state facts but understand that just because you assume something is fact doesn't mean it is. If its your opinion just say so nobody is going to fault you for that.

You know you might want to get your Estro checked bc being emotional is a big symptom.
 
WOW I can't believe what I just read... It is deranged opinion that everyone who has test in the "normal" range and doesn't feel good must have a desensitized hpta due to steroid abuse. Hilarious!!

Now I do agree that doctors can't just take a patients subjective opinion about how they feel and turn it into a diagnosis. But they absolutely must take the patients feeling of well being in combination with physical evidence (ie lower test) in order to both make a diagnosis and a treatment plan.

There are many reasons for low test in males even those who have never taken any exo test. There are just as many or more reasons for hpta system to not be functioning properly doesn't mean necessarily the hpta is desensitized due to steroid abuse.

As for your opinion about a doctor's professionalism...I personally have never ever been to a doctor's office without the first question from the doctor being, "How are you feeling or what's troubling you" and then the doctor uses that info as a guide to search for causes. I know that no one in here was suggesting that the OP be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of his life if he is feeling fine. Or if he is feeling bad but if he or someone else is feeling like crap and has low test and no other symptoms then guess what he might need TRT. The simple fact is there are people who have to be on some chemical, hormone, or drug forever to feel normal. Diabetics are a perfect example. Sad but true.

In the future...try not to get so emotional when you are trying to prove your point on a board. Just state facts but understand that just because you assume something is fact doesn't mean it is. If its your opinion just say so nobody is going to fault you for that.

You know you might want to get your Estro checked bc being emotional is a big symptom.

Thank you sir!!!
 
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