'lean bulk' idea for early october

[thehogman]

planning on runing this cycle in october
wk 1-16 700mg test prop
wk 1-16 700mg nandrolone prop
wk 1-16 450mg 1-test cyp(dihydroboldenone)
wk 1-4 50mg ed trestolone
wek 4-10 350mg tren ace
wk 10-16 700mg stenbolone (optional)
pct:
wk 16-22 20mg nolvadex
wk16-22 20mg toremiferene (left over from old batch)
letro e3d or as needed (not prone to gyno)
.5 caber e3d or as needed
tell me what you think of it, if your going to say im running too many compounds, i always run multiple compounds so its fine if my liver dies then so be it, ill be running liver aids:
1.8g NAC
1-2g milk thistle
1g TUDCA
1g UDCA
liv. 52
4-5ml ed of that liver aid from synthetek
ill also be running rich pianas organ aid supplement on top of everything
ill be doing a log in october most likely

 

[tbonexl]

Why are you starting pct right after you pin? You should run test a couple weeks longer then your other compounds so that their not in your system while doing pct. Wait 5-7 days after last on to start pct while using test prop. Pct won't be effective if you still have high levels of gear in you...

 

[tbonexl]

If your going to run that low of a dose for toremiphene either get some more or add clomid with nolva @50mgs per day...

 

[Megatron28]

What are your stats and age?

 

[thehogman]

as i said i hav toremiferene left over so ill be throwing the rest of what i have in with my tomixfen, i will be starting nolvadex 4 ays after last pin, stats 25 234lbs 5'11 many cycles under my belt, and i dont like clomid so i stick with hcg twords the end of cycle then usually toremiferne but i got some nolva off my boy so ill be using a ombo of torm and nolva..this will be my first time doing something like this, i have used adex and letro in my pct before but never torm n nolva so ill see how it goes, coudnt hurt lol

 

[thehogman]

and i know your supposed to run test higher than nandrolone and iknow your not supposed to mix two 19-nors but ive done this many times with no bad side effects as long as im taking caber

 

[Megatron28]

and i know your supposed to run test higher than nandrolone and iknow your not supposed to mix two 19-nors but ive done this many times with no bad side effects as long as im taking caber

Who says you are not supposed to do either of those?

 

[Onk]

and i know your supposed to run test higher than nandrolone and iknow your not supposed to mix two 19-nors but ive done this many times with no bad side effects as long as im taking caber

wrong on both counts mate

 

[halfwit]

Running all that gear, yet still pretty behind on how things are done. AI's are done ON CYCLE, not as part of your PCT. Growing tits is the least of your worries when it comes to estradiol, and I'm frankly a little concerned with your attitude of how health comes second to gains. I would expect a little more maturity from someone that is 25, as health should be your FIRST priority. You get one body in this life; treat it with respect, or you will regret it later on.

As far as the cycle itself, why such a mish-mash of compounds? I'm all for running multiple compounds at once, but some of them don't make a lot of sense to me.

wk 1-16 700mg test prop
wk 1-16 700mg nandrolone prop
Why prop for 16 weeks? Please don't say bloat, or I'll remind you about your philosophy about AI's.

wk 1-16 450mg 1-test cyp(dihydroboldenone)
What are you looking to get from 1-test? Do you have appetite problems? It's basically EQ, but less anabolic.

wk 1-4 50mg ed trestolone
I really hope I was misunderstanding your stance on AI use. MENT not only aromatizes, but is ALSO a progestin.

wek 4-10 350mg tren ace
Six weeks of the most powerful anabolic in your list, and at a really conservative dose? This your first time with tren? I'm frankly quite confused as to why you'd opt for trestolone for 4 weeks, followed by tren. Do you know how these work? Not trying to be insulting, but it really seems like you looked up a bunch of profiles, guessed at doses, and tossed them in.

wk 10-16 700mg stenbolone (optional)
I haven't seen this one in a long time. In fact, I think it was in Duchane's book that I even heard of it the first time. Is there something specific you're looking to get out of this besides a higher hematocrit?

In all honesty, I would be really worried about all the potential sides that such a cycle could bring. That's NOT including tren doing its thing on your body/mind.

My .02c

 

[tbonexl]

It's a pot luck cycle. His buddies tossed him their left overs and he's going to show everybody! Lol got lots to learn bud..

 

[thehogman]

LOL exactly its an experimental cyle, ive been doing this for about 7 years although i can ofcourse still learn more, im not totally brain dead, i know how to cycle, i would never suggest this cycle to one of my guys i train,
i work with a doctor so ill be getting bloods done through the cycle,
ill be taking caber n letro/adex
not looking for critique on the cycle as this is mainly experimental
16wks of prop n nan cuz i run my cycles for 16wks?
i dont have a 'philosophy' on ai use as ill be using them thru the cycle?
1-test because i like the vasularity from it, and appetite incrase, and it seems to put on a good amount of lean mass
trest as a kick start over dbol or drol due to less hepatoxicity, i react well with it
tren i ran many many times, it keeps me lean n i grow easier when im lean, but the main reason is cuz i got some left over to throw in the concauction lol
sten because i always throw it in at the end of my cycle to look nice as i come off due to conditioning, leaning effect it seems to have, and its basically a stronger primo and i aswell react very very well to primo so i love sten
the whole point of this cycle is to be an experiment. this is very abnormal and thats why i want to run it.
what im looking for is if someone ran cycle similar to this, maybe test deca dhb? most people if not all people have never ran something like this, obviously, but theres people out there that have ran similar compounds like test deca tren ect.
if youve ran something similar what where you results?
im not as crazy as bostin loyd, but i do enjoy experimenting

 

[3J]

Running all that gear, yet still pretty behind on how things are done. AI's are done ON CYCLE, not as part of your PCT. Growing tits is the least of your worries when it comes to estradiol, and I'm frankly a little concerned with your attitude of how health comes second to gains. I would expect a little more maturity from someone that is 25, as health should be your FIRST priority. You get one body in this life; treat it with respect, or you will regret it later on.

As far as the cycle itself, why such a mish-mash of compounds? I'm all for running multiple compounds at once, but some of them don't make a lot of sense to me.

wk 1-16 700mg test prop
wk 1-16 700mg nandrolone prop
Why prop for 16 weeks? Please don't say bloat, or I'll remind you about your philosophy about AI's.

wk 1-16 450mg 1-test cyp(dihydroboldenone)
What are you looking to get from 1-test? Do you have appetite problems? It's basically EQ, but less anabolic.

wk 1-4 50mg ed trestolone
I really hope I was misunderstanding your stance on AI use. MENT not only aromatizes, but is ALSO a progestin.

wek 4-10 350mg tren ace
Six weeks of the most powerful anabolic in your list, and at a really conservative dose? This your first time with tren? I'm frankly quite confused as to why you'd opt for trestolone for 4 weeks, followed by tren. Do you know how these work? Not trying to be insulting, but it really seems like you looked up a bunch of profiles, guessed at doses, and tossed them in.

wk 10-16 700mg stenbolone (optional)
I haven't seen this one in a long time. In fact, I think it was in Duchane's book that I even heard of it the first time. Is there something specific you're looking to get out of this besides a higher hematocrit?

In all honesty, I would be really worried about all the potential sides that such a cycle could bring. That's NOT including tren doing its thing on your body/mind.

My .02c

your patience amazes me.. i got a headache reading his post