Legendary first cycle thread (with 3J assistance)

[Onk]

Tried my left delt this arvo. Much more painful that the glute. Only used a 1" 23g so it's not too deep a needle, but damnnnn, hurts a lot more than the other pins already. Ah well. Sucked it up and did legs.

Legs:
10 min warmup walk on the treadmill
Back Squats @ 120kgs x5 (been doing front squats for ages so took an extra set to figure out my desired weight)
Hack Squats @ 140 kgs x4
Leg ext @ 75 kgs x4
Single Leg curl @ 45 kgs per leg x4
Dumbell SLDL @ 90 kgs x3

Calf press x3
Single leg deficit step extension x3

To Shred and 3J since I know you both do delts....was yours virgin pin more painful in delts that others? I think half my trouble was that I wouldn't aspirate as well as when doing glutes, still managed it but barely.
As opposed to glutes where I'm flexible enough to reach around properly to use both arms.

Watched this before going. Turns you into an enraged LION:

 

[Sullerson]

Question for tomorrow pin. So far i've done two, right and left glutes.
It has been a week so I guess I can go back to doing the right glute as it's been adequate time....

however, would it be a better option to get my delts used to pinning? I could do both my right and left delts for my next two pins, then back to glutes afterwards. End of the day I want to be comfortable to pin different muscles.

I rotate between glutes, quads and delts. I keep it logged so I know where I pinned last.

edit: for aspirating delts, I just use my thumb to pull up on the plunger a bit. If there is a lot of tension when you try to draw up, you're in muscle and good to go. If you missed the muscle, it would be a lot easier to draw up. Takes a few tries to get it down, but very easy once you get the feel for it.

 

[Onk]

Arms day:
(bit of a rush as I finished work late and then had a dinner date)
4x triangle tri ext
3x tricep press
3x straight bar tri ext
3x dumbell tri ext

4x barbell curl
4x hammer curl
3x rope curl on resistance machine

pumped through that in 45 mins and got out of there to make dinner on time. Actually rushing through decreased my rest time whilst keeping sets the same. I think my body responded better so it's worth a shot again.

Delt still painful, didn't do skull crushers because of it.

Explained to my gf the whole AAS situation. I had only told her I was going to previously. Had a nice long chat about why I'm doing it, what steps I've taken, research done, precautions etc and she was actually cool with it. Not happy because of the legality of AAS in Australia, but no problems otherwise.

I rotate between glutes, quads and delts. I keep it logged so I know where I pinned last.

edit: for aspirating delts, I just use my thumb to pull up on the plunger a bit. If there is a lot of tension when you try to draw up, you're in muscle and good to go. If you missed the muscle, it would be a lot easier to draw up. Takes a few tries to get it down, but very easy once you get the feel for it.

Will try the quads at some point. Although the delt was painful, I did enjoy no one noticing and asking like they did after my botched glute injection......I did give the whole aspiration technique you mentioned a try yesterday, but think my index and thumb weren't close enough together, hence there wasn't enough force to get a good aspirate. Thanks for the tip!

 

[yanks4life]

Inclined to follow along. Kick ass, man.
Completely understand the whole explaining to the girl situation. Took me forever to finally get her on board. Ok I lie, shes not 100% on board but....

 

[Onk]

4th injection today, right glute again and no problems now. I remedied any problems I had with the original injection so this time it went smoothly. Wast standing, with all weight on my left leg. Managed to even wiggle my toes I was that relaxed on my right side.

Not sure if it's a placebo (as it's too early) or not, but I felt stronger already today. Did chest and managed to push myself harder with more intensity than ever.

Chest + Calves:
Incline press 4x @ 264 lbs (which is 120kgs hence i'm rounding off)
Flat barbell press 4x @ 220
Decline press 4x @ 220
Dumbbell fly 3x @ 110

Calf Ext x4 @ 175
Single leg calf ext on a step for deficit x4, just bodyweight until fatigue

 

[Craza]

Definitely following this! My favorite pining places are Delts, tried it in the glute and it was just terrible pain for 5 days. Never pinned there again. Pip in the delt is easily manageable in my experience

 

[3J]

keep it up brother... monster in the making!!! another 3js nutrition network client!!

 

[Onk]

Definitely following this! My favorite pining places are Delts, tried it in the glute and it was just terrible pain for 5 days. Never pinned there again. Pip in the delt is easily manageable in my experience

Thanks mate, your first cycle thread was what helped me get started. You may have noticed I liked your format and copied a bit into mine
Had no PIP since my 2nd glute injection but I'm inertial about injecting my right delt. I do a lot right handed and it'll very noticeable the few days after.

keep it up brother... monster in the making!!! another 3js nutrition network client!!

3J, you'd be the best person to answer after designing my diet and writing several of the AAS profiles on the home page....
Is it too early to feel any increases in strength or is that more diet?
As I already feel a greater sex drive and have spots of aggression where I wouldn't normally notice before.

 

[3J]

Thanks mate, your first cycle thread was what helped me get started. You may have noticed I liked your format and copied a bit into mine
Had no PIP since my 2nd glute injection but I'm inertial about injecting my right delt. I do a lot right handed and it'll very noticeable the few days after.



3J, you'd be the best person to answer after designing my diet and writing several of the AAS profiles on the home page....
Is it too early to feel any increases in strength or is that more diet?
As I already feel a greater sex drive and have spots of aggression where I wouldn't normally notice before.

your diet alone would have helped with strength gains.. but no.. its not too early.. your levels are already higher than they would be natty..

 

[Onk]

Back day:
4x Behind head lat pulldowns
4x T-bar row
3x Dumbell deadlifts @ 100kgs, with the 50kg set being the heaviest dumbell at my gym, was fun to do
4x Close grip pull downs
fatigued and couldn't do more

Think I've hit that zone where I know I can keep going up with heavier weights but it'll start hurting my shoulders, wrists and elbows. Probably knees as well when I do legs on Thursday.
So will back off a bit and focus on my form all the more, really engaging and flexing the muscles out, even if it means more reps and lower weights. Not going to fall into that trap and injure myself.

 

[3J]

smart man.. alot of people on cycle add too much weight too quickly and injure themselves

 

[Onk]

Shoulder day:
5x Machine press (palms facing inwards grip) ** did it a bit longer as I wasn't quite done. Listened to my body and stopped when it told me to.
3x side dumbell lat raise
3x front lat raise
4x rear delt fly ** quite slow, which made me burn like never before. even switched my grips between palms facing in, out and down
3x shrugs (20/10/20)

had a good stretch afterward today for 20 plus minutes. found i have inflamation in my rotator cuff area so wanted to have a good stretch of my whole body to see if that'd ameliorate the grievance...

 

[Onk]

Did the left glute today, actually a bit of pain for the first time but I imagine that's due to being late home from work and not warming up the Test before shooting it.
Also didn't cool down the needles, either one I guess.....

Leg day:
5 min walk on ze treadmill of destiny
4x front squats
4x leg press neutral stance
4x SLDL
4x leg curls
6x leg ext. was REALLY loving the leg extensions today and was getting mad pumped up. Smashed them until I couldn't even get my legs out of the machine...then when I could finally stand turned around and did that last drop on the 6th set to really shatter them.

Had to go shopping afterwards and must have looked like a zombie out of MJ's Thriller.

DID eat 2 bagels tonight for post-workout nutrition instead of 1, with vegemite on top but damn it felt good! Missed the vegemite. Don't know how only Aussies seem to like it. You're all missing out!!!

 

[Onk]

Shiiiiit, didn't update last night.

Arms:
4x triangle bar push down
4x machine arm ext
4x single arm cable extension, palm facing outwards
1x rope tri ext, super long drop set starting from heaviest weight, doing 4 reps of every weight until the machines' lowest weight.

5x barbell curl
5x hammer curl
Literally couldn't do more arms after this. Aim is to improve my right bicep as the peak-to-trough ratio is bigger than my left. have to slowly even it out..

 

[Southernfish]

What does vegemite taste like bro.....biiter? Its a spread correct?

 

[Onk]

What does vegemite taste like bro.....biiter? Its a spread correct?

Yes it's quite bitter, but similar to beer you get used to it. In fact it used to be made from excess yeast not used when brewing beer. It's a very salty mixture:

Ingredients:
http://gfjules.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/vegemite.jpg

 

[Onk]

Finished a nice relaxing weekend that encompassed Haloween and alcohol (rare but it was a big night, my fav soccer team won the asian champion's league).

Must be getting used to pinning as I have no trouble doing it now, no pain and my time spent doing it is quite low....maybe a few minutes until complete.
Still rotating three sites, both glutes and left delt.

Chest and calves:
4x bb decline (haven't done decline in a few months, mixing it up)
4x db incline
4x bb flat
4x pec deck
4x wide cable flys doing top down, superset with widearm pushups with fingers facing outwards

6x calf extension, slower than usual to focus on bringing more symmetry as my left calf isn't as good at the full extension
3x single leg calf ext on steps

going to have to condense my other days since I'm flying international Thursday night

 

[Onk]

Melbourne cup day in Australia (big horse racing event where we all take off work or do half days)
had a few beers entertaining clients until COB then got home and hit the gym as best I could

Back:
4x Behind head lat pulldowns
4x close grip row
6x D-lifts
4x Yates row
3x hyper-extension

 

[snowpatrol123]

Have been following in the background; I see that yates row made it's way in!

Cheers bro

Side note...I'm thinking about switching my "tricep burnout" at the end of chest day to a shoulder burnout, after kevin levrone's comments/demo in this vid:

 

[Onk]

Shoulders + triceps:
4x Behind the neck press (random conincidence as I hadn't seen SP's post just before this one)
3x DB lat raise >> didn't do 4 sets as my shoulders told me no more
4x front cable raise
4x close grip upright row
no shrugs today, again, body was telling me not to hit them as they already felt quite tired

4x weighted dips, i do +60kgs (130 lbs) usually
4x tricep machine ext
4x single arm cable ext, each set until failure

When I started doing the front lat cable raises I was thinking about Shredder's log and how we've been talking about putting my mind in the muscle....

So I closed my eyes for every set thereafter and just focused on squeezing the muscle and not worrying about rep numbers. Can't tell you how many reps I did, but can say that I'm incredibly tired now. I even noticed on some machines my technique was becoming a bit worse as I fatigued so it was a great way to catch myself.

Have been following in the background; I see that yates row made it's way in!

Cheers bro

Side note...I'm thinking about switching my "tricep burnout" at the end of chest day to a shoulder burnout, after kevin levrone's comments/demo in this vid:

Didn't see it before I hit shoulders but glad I still did a behind the neck press regardless!
Interesting idea, as I do feel quite gutted on shoulders when doing chest. Worth a try to mix things up!