Letro Log - Gyno b gone.. I hope
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Not7fifteen
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Day 18
Drank a bit today, tried to alternate beer water beer water beer water haha
Joints a little achy from being outside in the cold all day
Other than that nothing crazy
Drank a bit today, tried to alternate beer water beer water beer water haha
Joints a little achy from being outside in the cold all day
Other than that nothing crazy
Not7fifteen
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Day 19...
Energy drinks are my friend... Lethargy at work sucks, joints really feeing it from last weeks high weight reps, backing down this week.
Weighted dips with a plate really taxed my fingers to my shoulders.
Can't wait to get off the letro and pray for no rebound lol
Energy drinks are my friend... Lethargy at work sucks, joints really feeing it from last weeks high weight reps, backing down this week.
Weighted dips with a plate really taxed my fingers to my shoulders.
Can't wait to get off the letro and pray for no rebound lol
Not7fifteen
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So if you're counting total days taking any dose at all its day 24 today, or day 19 at full dose of 2.5mg/day....
My legs day just sucked. My knees are achy as hell and I have some chronic recurring back issue of a pinched nerve that seems to be really plauging me while on letro. The lump is practically undetectable today, haven't had any pain or sensitivity for over a week.
Would it be safe to taper out? I don't know how much more of the back pain I can handle honestly. Everytime I attempt a squat or deadlift (even at light weight) I get the nerve pinch sensation and near paralyzing pain. Now I've broken both my patellas, and that was bad, broke my ankles, fractured a metacarple, broke my tail bone... the pinched nerve in my lower back is almost worse than any of those to deal with. I have to get to position where its not pinching and remain in that alignment of my back or its a horrible pain like someones running a knife into my spine and my back muscles are torn, like its almost hard to even stand up and support my upper body. When it happens its like I have no core stabilizer muscles and to bend my upper body along the spine in any direction is terrible.
Its not as bad as its been before, but its creeping back. When this happens it usually lags around for 2 weeks before I'm at 100% again so at the slightest onset I will drop what I'm doing to avoid it. That being said its been about 3 weeks since I've had a good leg/back session with good squats/deads/front squats/hack squats etc...
I've been reading all this negativity that once the gyno is there its there forever and the letro only shrinks it while your on...
If its inevitably going to come back then it makes me think "wtf was the use of this in the first place, and how long am I going to be feeling the negative sides of the fucking letro?"
Any insight?
My legs day just sucked. My knees are achy as hell and I have some chronic recurring back issue of a pinched nerve that seems to be really plauging me while on letro. The lump is practically undetectable today, haven't had any pain or sensitivity for over a week.
Would it be safe to taper out? I don't know how much more of the back pain I can handle honestly. Everytime I attempt a squat or deadlift (even at light weight) I get the nerve pinch sensation and near paralyzing pain. Now I've broken both my patellas, and that was bad, broke my ankles, fractured a metacarple, broke my tail bone... the pinched nerve in my lower back is almost worse than any of those to deal with. I have to get to position where its not pinching and remain in that alignment of my back or its a horrible pain like someones running a knife into my spine and my back muscles are torn, like its almost hard to even stand up and support my upper body. When it happens its like I have no core stabilizer muscles and to bend my upper body along the spine in any direction is terrible.
Its not as bad as its been before, but its creeping back. When this happens it usually lags around for 2 weeks before I'm at 100% again so at the slightest onset I will drop what I'm doing to avoid it. That being said its been about 3 weeks since I've had a good leg/back session with good squats/deads/front squats/hack squats etc...
I've been reading all this negativity that once the gyno is there its there forever and the letro only shrinks it while your on...
If its inevitably going to come back then it makes me think "wtf was the use of this in the first place, and how long am I going to be feeling the negative sides of the fucking letro?"
Any insight?
Not7fifteen
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Got nolva as mentioned
Not7fifteen
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day 25
Tapered down last two pills to 2mg, basically a half and the large half of the other half. Cut 4 pills like this and weighed them on my digital scale
For assurance I'm tapering down like so :
2.5 20 days total I believe is what I ran after tapering on
2 (half and the larger portion of half a half)
2
1.75 (half and smaller portion of a half of half)
1.25 (half pill)
1.25
.75 (larger half of a half pill)
.75
.5 (smaller half of a half pill)
.5
There may be some slight variance in the amounts since it's hard to chop up a tiny triangle shaped pill without crushing it but I'm weighing the ammounts with a digi scale to get a close as possible.
Basically doing a half the cutting the oblong triangular half in half again leaving a larger an smaller piece of close to .75 and .50mg
Tapered down last two pills to 2mg, basically a half and the large half of the other half. Cut 4 pills like this and weighed them on my digital scale
For assurance I'm tapering down like so :
2.5 20 days total I believe is what I ran after tapering on
2 (half and the larger portion of half a half)
2
1.75 (half and smaller portion of a half of half)
1.25 (half pill)
1.25
.75 (larger half of a half pill)
.75
.5 (smaller half of a half pill)
.5
There may be some slight variance in the amounts since it's hard to chop up a tiny triangle shaped pill without crushing it but I'm weighing the ammounts with a digi scale to get a close as possible.
Basically doing a half the cutting the oblong triangular half in half again leaving a larger an smaller piece of close to .75 and .50mg
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Not7fifteen
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Tapering process
I took the last half pill last night, .75mg or so starting tomorrow. Joints kinda feeling slightly better but it may be in my head. Nolvadex should start Wednesday for 2 weeks. One thing I did notice is that while on the letro my delayed onset muscle soreness lagged a little, generally 48hrs or so after a workout is the worst soreness, however it's been more like 72 hours which is odd and it def lingers a bit longer
I took the last half pill last night, .75mg or so starting tomorrow. Joints kinda feeling slightly better but it may be in my head. Nolvadex should start Wednesday for 2 weeks. One thing I did notice is that while on the letro my delayed onset muscle soreness lagged a little, generally 48hrs or so after a workout is the worst soreness, however it's been more like 72 hours which is odd and it def lingers a bit longer
ronnie2010
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So is it all gone?
Not7fifteen
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Ronnie, the lump and all soreness and sensitivity is gone.
Btw, had morning wood for the first time since starting the letro this AM
And um yea, the computer met the tv to watch the movie... WTF?
Btw, had morning wood for the first time since starting the letro this AM
And um yea, the computer met the tv to watch the movie... WTF?
Not7fifteen
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Well hope no one got their hopes up, the lump an sensitivity was gone when I got off the letro, I've been on nolvadex 4 days now and the lump is back and sensitivity increasing back to what it was
Fuck gyno
Fuck gyno
shockandawelifter
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do u have insurance? if it causes Paine its covered.
Not7fifteen
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I told my physician when I got my second round if bloodwork that it was painful and keeps me up at night and irritates me all day, he felt the lump, dx'd it as gyno, then offered 150mg eow if test cyp with no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) lol
I asked what about the gyno and he just shrugged it off
It's not as bad as I told him but annoying none the less
I can live with it but thought I'd five the letro a shot
I do feel better overall and noticed some reduction in most of the low t, high e symptoms though..
About to say fuck it and just run a 1st cycle and see what happens
shockandawelifter
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have you tried to restart your test production with post cycle therapy (pct)? you might be able to fix it.
Not7fifteen
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Fix gyno by a HPTA restart?
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