Looking for some HGH advice....

[mcchicken]

I'm late 20's yo, have a few cycles under my belt.

Planning on doing a year-long HGH run, along with AAS throughout.
The HGH is Norvotrop (trusted/reliable source).

I'm looking at doing 2iu/ed for the year.
Along with 500mg/test e/week throughout the year.

With at least 2 deca cycles, in which I will increase the test to 625/week alongside 450/week of deca.

My research has led me to believe, that AAS increases muscle cell size, and HGH grows new muscle cells (long-term). So combining both will give me a synergistic effect and both will complement each other.

Is 2iu a sufficient amount for some fat loss and muscle cell growth in a long-term cycle w/AAS?
Or am I better off not even bothering with the HGH?

Thanks to anyone who helps!

 

[djester]

how much do you weigh? 2-4 iu of gh would be sufficient.

 

[mcchicken]

190-195lbs.

So 2iu in your opinion would be effective for my goals, especially since I would be taking it for 12 months alongside AAS?

 

[djester]

yeah should be good

 

[Moppy1]

You might be disappointed in your muscle growth on HGH, especially at 2IU. I have done many cycles and HGH is not very anabolic (muscle) for me personally. Mostly use it for recovery and fat loss. I am also 47 years old and HGH makes me feel good but I have never noticed an increase in strength from HGH nor any muscle mass increase. Even over 5IU a day it has little effect in muscle mass increase.....for me.

 

[Rida5d]

You might be disappointed in your muscle growth on HGH, especially at 2IU. I have done many cycles and HGH is not very anabolic (muscle) for me personally. Mostly use it for recovery and fat loss. I am also 47 years old and HGH makes me feel good but I have never noticed an increase in strength from HGH nor any muscle mass increase. Even over 5IU a day it has little effect in muscle mass increase.....for me.

How much did u use for anti aging and fat loss? Do u think 1 iu is enough for that?

 

[meatmonkey]

How much did u use for anti aging and fat loss? Do u think 1 iu is enough for that?

No. IMO, 2iu's/day for anti-aging, and some lipolysis.

 

[tbonexl]

The real question is are u really planning on staying on test the whole time?

 

[mcchicken]

The real question is are u really planning on staying on test the whole time?

Yes, the full year alongside 2iu/day, with 2 deca cycles spaced out alongside the test. Then a intensive PCT, followed by not using AAS for a full year after.
(1 year on, 1 full year off)

500mg Test E - 1 year
2iu HGH/day - 1 year
AI on hand
Blood donated (then disposed by CBS) every 2 months to keep RBC's in check

With 450mg/week deca, 2 cycles, in which I will turn up the test to 625mg/week to run with it.

Clean diet, hard training, solid rest.

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I'm under the impression that running HGH with AAS will maximize it's benefits, and thats why I can get away with 2iu, since it's long-term use as well. I'm mainly interested in the lipolysis, and some muscle cell creation.

 

[tbonexl]

That's a long time to be on test since you are planning a pct. You can cycle off test and stay on gh.

 

[mcchicken]

That's a long time to be on test since you are planning a pct. You can cycle off test and stay on gh.

You think 2iu will work for my goals?

 

[tbonexl]

I think 2 ius is a good start. If u don't feel any of the negative sides, u can bump it up. Most people I know that run gh stick to 5-7 ius.

 

[snowpatrol123]

I think 2 ius is a good start. If u don't feel any of the negative sides, u can bump it up. Most people I know that run gh stick to 5-7 ius.

I've heard most people talk about 2iu pharm = 6~8iu chinese. So - sounds about right to me depending on what grade they're buying at least. 5-7iu of pharm-grade GH ED would be pretty expensive around these parts at least.

 

[mcchicken]

I've heard most people talk about 2iu pharm = 6~8iu chinese. So - sounds about right to me depending on what grade they're buying at least. 5-7iu of pharm-grade GH ED would be pretty expensive around these parts at least.

It wouldn't be pharma, Norvotrop or Megatropin AQ Gold.

 

[tbonexl]

Like I said, u got to re-evaluate your test cycle. That's going to be hard to rebound from running test that long.

 

[mcchicken]

Like I said, u got to re-evaluate your test cycle. That's going to be hard to rebound from running test that long.

I will look into cycling the test throughout the year instead of staying on for the whole year.
Do you believe the GH would be a waste of money?

 

[China_Wall]

I'm late 20's yo, have a few cycles under my belt.

Planning on doing a year-long HGH run, along with AAS throughout.
The HGH is Norvotrop (trusted/reliable source).

I'm looking at doing 2iu/ed for the year.
Along with 500mg/test e/week throughout the year.

With at least 2 deca cycles, in which I will increase the test to 625/week alongside 450/week of deca.

My research has led me to believe, that AAS increases muscle cell size, and HGH grows new muscle cells (long-term). So combining both will give me a synergistic effect and both will complement each other.

Is 2iu a sufficient amount for some fat loss and muscle cell growth in a long-term cycle w/AAS?
Or am I better off not even bothering with the HGH?

Thanks to anyone who helps!

2iu of GH, no matter what quality u think u got, is useless for bodybuilding purposes... female actors and figure athletes run 4iu+ year-round, so u decide if 2iu is enough for u

 

[tbonexl]

Do I think so? Yea. I bought some last fall and was going to start up early winter. After looking into the sides, I decided maybe next year. Sleepy all day and being lethargic for the first couple months just didn't fit into my work schedule. I was going to do a 5 day split out of 7, starting off with 2 ius. Couple other people I know started and after seeing them, I backed out. Can't be falling asleep at work! Lol

 

[tbonexl]

2iu of GH, no matter what quality u think u got, is useless for bodybuilding purposes... female actors and figure athletes run 4iu+ year-round, so u decide if 2iu is enough for u

I agree. U can start off with 2, then bump up slowly. Staying at 2 is a waste.

 

[Moppy1]

Do I think so? Yea. I bought some last fall and was going to start up early winter. After looking into the sides, I decided maybe next year. Sleepy all day and being lethargic for the first couple months just didn't fit into my work schedule. I was going to do a 5 day split out of 7, starting off with 2 ius. Couple other people I know started and after seeing them, I backed out. Can't be falling asleep at work! Lol

Does it really make you tired? I have been doing 5 IUs a day for the past month and I have been more tired than usual. Never equated the two though.