masteron vs winny finisher

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cutandbulk69

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Hey everyone i am new to this forum just ooking for opinions on a finsher to get me solid vascular and cut up for the end of my summer cut my current cycle looks like this im just finishing week 6

test enth 450mg a week 1-18
tren enth 600 mg a week 1-13
anavar 50mg a day week 1-7
eq 450mg a week 1-12

My question is from week 7 on should i run winny at 50mg ed oral version week 7-14
or do mast prop 300mg a week from 7-16 or mast enth 600mg a week 7-13?

stats
6,2
190
12%bf
 
i think you got enough compounds in one cycle man. the test/tren combo should shred you up by itself. I'd just make diet alterations instead of adding more chemicals.
 
appreciate the input guys but im going to end up running one of the compounds so im just wondering what some opinions are on wich one to run have run masteron before at 30mmg a week and loved it makes me vascular as f*** but heard winny is a game changer and is the bomb im just worried about my joints to be honest
 
Its kind of funny when I actually say it..I have 40 more lbs of muscle than this guy does. And I am not even juicing. Re evaluate your diet
 
ive ran about 3 cyclkes before this mostly test tren and masteron did tbol one cycle and anadrol the others for the first couple weeks, my weight should not matter my diet is dialed in forsure i eat completley 100%organic and 6 meals a day around 3500 calories 400g protein 250g of carbs and 50 g of fats look theres competitve athletes that are 5,10 140 that are juicing some people can only naturally get so big
 
cutandbulk69 said:
ive ran about 3 cyclkes before this mostly test tren and masteron did tbol one cycle and anadrol the others for the first couple weeks, my weight should not matter my diet is dialed in forsure i eat completley 100%organic and 6 meals a day around 3500 calories 400g protein 250g of carbs and 50 g of fats look theres competitve athletes that are 5,10 140 that are juicing some people can only naturally get so big
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you ran 3 cycles and you're still only that big? you say some can only get so big naturally, but using steroids is not considered natural. and these athletes that juice and are still small don't use steroids to bulk, they use them to enhance athletic performance so they are not eating to get big. If you juice and eat to grow, there is no reason whatsoever that you should not grow. Weight does matter as it is a clear indicator that you are not eating enough. you run these heavy cycles and replace a good diet with more chemicals, and that's why after 3 cycles you are only 190 lbs.
 
i was 205 at like 18% bf and have also packed on lean muscle while burrning fat i eat quite abit so much that i just cant eat anymore even on the eq wondering if the tren is killing my appetite im 22 turning 23 next month btw and im not looking to get huge why would i want to so when i get married and have kids most of that can just become fat no thanks i like being lean but strong my goal weight would be 210 as a finished product never wanna go over that but would like to remain close to the same size but drop around 3% bf over the summer maybe gain a little muscle and strength
 
You dont need a fifth compound you already have 4 too many in your cycle, 6'2 190 23yo and three cycles under your belt. Spend your money in food instead if juice for the time being.

What did you weight when you started you first cycle?
 
3500 cals is low as fuck im surprized ur 190... i eat 3500 cals to maintain and i weigh less than you, by a few pounds( im a lot shorter then you though btw) and if you want to gain 20lbs that isnt just waterweight from the juice then you need to eat more man, there is nothing around it its common sense... i get the whole you dont need to be huge as fuck, i think the same i would never wanna be over 200 buuuutttt, and i do juice to escape cheating in my diet because i drink often but i dont use that many chemicals at all, my last cycle was just 500mg of test prop and this one was 400 test prop and 350 npp, and i only did it for 8 weeks and i only cycle once a year, 18 weeks is a long time for someone who doesnt wanna trt and is interested in having kids

like ur almost running 2g's of juice/week and you wanna throw in another 600?
 
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son,

Your ruining your health. I been in this game longer than u been breathing and while I may not look like much to
(avi is current...where s yours ?) you...I was onlyever exposed to test...some d bol on occasion...

Your 23 yrs old and please take a breath and slow down. Gear s not the answer. I bet you look great at your current size.....even gear will not be a majic wand..what you need is patience and a realization that what you need is to slow the fuck down and run reasonable cycles, eat, do not ovetrain, rest..and it will come.....in time.

No disrespect...
 
hey everyone thanks for the advice ill up my calories and a little on the protein and carbs feels like im over eating sometimes and i eat 6 meals a day i feel when i over eat i feel bloated and the abdominal area dont look as good, i would kill to fiond some Npp think i will end up throwing in some winny my last couple weeks i take appropriate time off between cycles i gain muscle quite easy but fat seems to be a pain to burn sometimes even with a dialed in diet and 60mmg a week of tren
 
Maybe his goal is not to get huge? Some people prefer different looks. 190 shredded to a lot of people looks better than 230 semi shredded or even shredded. Personal preferences.

With thay said, 23 years old and 3 cycles already and all those compounds? Seems pretty harsh on your body man. Careful with the tren and winny, I always hear both are pretty harsh on the hair, especially winny. Yoy could always add T3 instead. It wont hinder your gains if you are already at a good test injection level. That will give you lean gains. I wouldnt take tren and winny at the same time unless you were going for a show or something. The tren will lean you out as will the t3.
 
cutandbulk69 said:
hey everyone thanks for the advice ill up my calories and a little on the protein and carbs feels like im over eating sometimes and i eat 6 meals a day i feel when i over eat i feel bloated and the abdominal area dont look as good, i would kill to fiond some Npp think i will end up throwing in some winny my last couple weeks i take appropriate time off between cycles i gain muscle quite easy but fat seems to be a pain to burn sometimes even with a dialed in diet and 60mmg a week of tren
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Like I said above, try t3
 
Dude

Steroids are for GETTING HUGE when your 23......or when your old like me to keep what you got and fuck like a 19 year old.

This kid has 3 cycles and everyone on here is trying to get him to ease up so he'll live to be 50. AAS are not for maintaining when your 23...they are for getting bigger, . I could cut to 180 and be freaky ripped WITH DIET AND AEROBICS. I need my little trt x 2 cycles as I m a physical trainwreck.

I did not mean to jump u but gd it...this ain t beer and weed. Please exercise some retraint when people with decades of use and abuse and life lessons are trying to reign in reckless abandon of gearage.

I ll go snort some geritol and rub some ass cream on my itch... ..maybe I ll be in a better mood.
 
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haha thanks guys im looking into t3 but wanna save it for a bulk and try to use it to keepo some what lean on my bulk next year im probabal;y gunna do winny at 5omg a day i got hair for days so not an issue what i am worried about is my joints
 
T3 is not for bulking. It speeds your thyroid up burning fat AND MUSCLE. It does not discriminate against the two. The only wayyou could use it to bulk is at 25mcg ed. (Shutting your thyroid down and giving your body less than what it should be producing. .. but this will cause you to gain fat as well.

Stay away from t3 u ntill yoy are more experienced. Its not an alternative to AAS. its a serious drug that should be used in conjunction with gear/knowledge
 
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6'2 190 lbs 6-7% bf can definatly look good. to the OP,the products you're looking to add to your cycle need to be ran 10% and lower BF to get a decent look from it.. just save your money and keep adding mass slow and steady. You're 23, you got plenty of time in front of you; take it easy
 
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