Monster Drinks, what scientific sides?

THE LETHAL SCIENCE OF SPLENDA

theres some food for thought...

and its "zero-calorie sweetner" title is controversial.. theres two sides to the story..

Ill bet if i looked hard enough on the interwebs i could find and article that says splenda makes you grow a third arm.

And even if splenda did have 4cals per gram like other sweeteners, the amount of splenda in one monster low carb would yeild .04 calories for the whole can.


Yikes!
 
and its just plain wrong to think 6 monsters full of splenda a day is not unhealthy.. i dont know where ur going with this philosophy of yours.. are u inclined to just meet the challenge??


why couldn't u have just started a normal debate?? i love shit like this.. there was no need for all that hostility

the dose that has been clinically shown to cause adverse effects is 1.1mg of splenda per kg of bodyweight. Again, thats 11000 monster low carbs in one day for a 220lb bro.

I wouldnt drink 6 monster in a day simply because of the overly-excessive amount of caffiene. The buck would stop there as i would see no need for further debate.
 
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Ill bet if i looked hard enough on the interwebs i could find and article that says splenda makes you grow a third arm.

And even if splenda did have 4cals per gram like other sweeteners, the amount of splenda in one monster low carb would yeild .04 calories for the whole can.


Yikes!

im not worried about the caloric intake.. i never said it was gonna make u FAT.. and i dont know exactly where ur getting ur numbers from with the calories.. i personally havn't looked into it.. so enlighten me...

lets look at some things
1.it makes you bloat
2. its a laxitivve
3. it can cause cancer
4. people who drink diet drinks are more prone to be overweight then people who dont.. why is this?? i wont say its a direct cause, but it plays a dominant role in it..
 
the dose that has been clinically shown to cause adverse effects is 1.1mg of splenda per kg of bodyweight. Again, thats 11000 monster low carbs in one day for a 220lb bro.

Id be infinetly more concerned with the excessive caffiene.

could u source that??
 
Results from over 100 animal and clinical studies in the FDA approval process unanimously indicated a lack of risk associated with sucralose intake.[4][18][19][20] However, some adverse effects were seen at doses that significantly exceeded the estimated daily intake (EDI), which is 1.1 mg/kg/day[21]

21. 21.^ a b Baird, I. M., Shephard, N. W., Merritt, R. J., & Hildick-Smith, G. (2000). "Repeated dose study of sucralose tolerance in human subjects". Food Chemical Toxicology 38 (Supplement 2): S123–S129.. doi:10.1016/S0278-6915(00)00035-1.
 
Results from over 100 animal and clinical studies in the FDA approval process unanimously indicated a lack of risk associated with sucralose intake.[4][18][19][20] However, some adverse effects were seen at doses that significantly exceeded the estimated daily intake (EDI), which is 1.1 mg/kg/day[21]

21. 21.^ a b Baird, I. M., Shephard, N. W., Merritt, R. J., & Hildick-Smith, G. (2000). "Repeated dose study of sucralose tolerance in human subjects". Food Chemical Toxicology 38 (Supplement 2): S123–S129.. doi:10.1016/S0278-6915(00)00035-1.

where's that website at??

we seem to have contradicting evidence.. not surprising..

yet i do believe in a better safe then sorry approach to things..

i wouldn't think ud be inclined to disagree.. unless this has become a pissing contest??

well let me be blunt.. do u think 6 monsters a day regarless of the caffeine in it, is good for a person?
 
Monster Low Carb Energy Drink

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Ingredients

Carbonated Water, Glucose, Citric Acid, Natural Flavor, Taurine, Sodium Citrate, Color Added, Panax Ginseng Root Extract, L-Carnitine, Maltodextrin, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Acid Sulfate, Caffeine, Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Sucralose (Splenda)Acesulfame Potassium, Sodium Chloride, Guarana Seed Extract, Inositol, Glucuronolactone, Niacinamide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Cyanocobalamin. Energy Blend: L-Carnitine, Glucose, Caffeine, Guarana, Inositol, Glucuronolactone, Maltodextrin.
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Consume Responsibly - Limit (3) cans per day. Not recommended for children, pregnant women or people sensitive to caffeine.


they even have a disclaimer/warning.. lmfao... come on guys.. common sense
 
Honestly at this point my only real beef is with aspartame, knowing that its made with methanol which is highly toxic. But until i see some solid evidence that sucralose is bad for you, im not gonna lose any sleep over it. I consume 2 monster low carbs a day, have been for several years. And i also sweeten my oatmeal with splenda and there are other foods/drinks that i consume during the course of the day that contain splenda. So id be willing to bet im consuming the equivalent of 6 monsters a day worth of splenda and im still alive. Were talking about .06 grams here which is a fraction of the 110g a day shown to be problematic.



The warning on the can is because of the caffiene, btw

But thats all the reason i need to not disregard it.
 
i didn't say ur gonna die from drinking it in a few years.. long term exposure to things like sucrose can cause bad health.. i believe that to be the truth.. i do alotta work in nutrition.. help alotta people out.. and iv never told someone, no u cant have that diet coke every once in a while.. but everything has its place and limitations..
 
i didn't say ur gonna die from drinking it in a few years.. long term exposure to things like sucrose can cause bad health.. i believe that to be the truth.. i do alotta work in nutrition.. help alotta people out.. and iv never told someone, no u cant have that diet coke every once in a while.. but everything has its place and limitations..

i agree about moderation. but i feel quite comfortable that .06g is moderation when 110g is the limit.
 
^^^WOW... That was quite funny. LOL

I still wouldn't be consuming that much, regardless of any research done. Didnt someone post about it giving issues with proper hydration and absorbtion by the intestines. If that is true it would play a roll in effecting protien absorbtion and effect ones growth. I dont know if that is true but like 3J said better safe than sorry. Thats alot of caffiene for sure though. I dont see how if one is drinking 6 of these a day he is finding enough tiem for enough water intake throughout the day.
If your drinking .5liters of water an hr and your awake 16hrs a day that gives you 8 liters a day which is about 2 gallons I dont see how I could drink 6 energy drinks and consume that cuz I already piss every 30-45 minutes.
 
You guys were really going at it there for a bit. Made it interesting to read!! If the guy is throwing back 6 Monsters a day because he likes the taste then more power to him. You two have provided all the information he needs to make a decision. In the end the guy is going to make his own choice, regardless of who won this argument! I have found 3J's diet advice very helpful in improving my physique. With that being said, let me say this.....Whhhhyyy can't wee be friiiiends? Whhhyyy can't wee be friiieends?
 
You guys were really going at it there for a bit. Made it interesting to read!! If the guy is throwing back 6 Monsters a day because he likes the taste then more power to him. You two have provided all the information he needs to make a decision. In the end the guy is going to make his own choice, regardless of who won this argument! I have found 3J's diet advice very helpful in improving my physique. With that being said, let me say this.....Whhhhyyy can't wee be friiiiends? Whhhyyy can't wee be friiieends?

lmfao.. tempers flare here... im ALWAYS down to debate nutrition.. and im not dumb enough to say i know everything.. so it's always good to learn from other people.. from each other...

but to be honest i think both edogger and i were in a bad mood last night.. lmfao.. it happens.. too much test floating around on the board.. its bound to happen..

im glad it came out to be a civil debate..

and i dont expect everyone to think the way i do about things.. i have my philosophy... there are 100000 more out there.. we debate and let others decide who's is better and who's they wanna follow.. and those people hopefully create their own philosophies based upon what they've learned from others.. thats the magic of this board
 
Must say, very interesting debate! I thought we were going to read about you two in the newspaper "Two hostile steroid user found stabbed by one another in front of a publix holding monster energy drink cans" LMFAO! Good read though. You guys each had good points. That said, when I finish this 24 pack, I think I'm going to "Energy drink rehab." =\ These things are fuking addicting as shit! My god! Yesterday night I told myself "tomorrow, I'm gonna drink only two cans" HA! I'm on my fourth already!! I think they sprinkle crack in those things!
 
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