most effective way to run gh???

[needsize]

It seems that how you are supposed to run gh keeps changing all the time. For a while it was 5 days on, 2 off, now a lot of people are saying 7 days a week is best.

So whats the deal, 5 or 7 days, and does it make a big difference if you split it into morning and night shots?

I am adding jintropin gh to my bulking after my show and want to make sure I do it the most effective was possible for mass gains. Will also be using insulin, have only done humalog in the past, but didnt get squat so am looking at some of the longer acting ones

 

[ironmaster]

The only reason to use a 5/2 split is to save money. Our natural production doesn't take the weekend off. I split injections AM and PM when using 4iu or more a day.

Humalog is really only useful to counteract the down-regulation of insulin sensitivity that occurs when injecting hGH. It is way too fast for real mass building. Instead, you might want to consider 2 daily injections of humulin-r with your split GH injections, or better yet, try an intermediate to long lasting insulin like humulin-n, L, or U. One shot of the U, for example will last all day and has a mild onset without spikes. Of course, you will want to eat regularly every couple hours......which you would do while bulking anyway.
Perhaps the ultimate insulin for bulking while using hGH is humulin 50-50 or 70-30. These combine fast acting suspensions with long lasting ones. Gives you a quick hit for the GH and longterm release for bulking.

Whatever you decide, I know you know to start real easy and see how you react to these different products. Hopefully, no rookies will go out and jump on this.......this is for experienced insulin users like mr. needsize.

 

[needsize]

thanks ironmaster, just wondering, how much do youhave to watch your fat intake when using the long acting insulins? I guess gh would make it easier to stay lean, but is eating fat still a concern when using slin like that?

 

[bigdelt69]

I think ironmaster answered it best. My question to you is why not try R3 IGF-1? I have been on it for a little over a week and I must say that so far the results have been better than what I got off 4 months of GH at 4 iu for 5 on 2 off. Due to an injury I have been sidelined from doing most heavy training but so far I have not lost any size and I have even droped a little bf.

 

[needsize]

I think ironmaster answered it best. My question to you is why not try R3 IGF-1? I have been on it for a little over a week and I must say that so far the results have been better than what I got off 4 months of GH at 4 iu for 5 on 2 off. Due to an injury I have been sidelined from doing most heavy training but so far I have not lost any size and I have even droped a little bf.

mainly cuz I havent done any research on it so I dont know squat about it

 

[ironmaster]

Right, the GH and a reasonably clean diet will keep the fat off. Intermediate and long lasting insulins are remarkably easy to use because they are so steady. You don't get those surges and spikes that require careful timing of carbs.
To be truthful, I eat all kinds of junk.....pizza, icecream, fast food, beer.....and still don't get fat. My metabolism is way fast from so many years of doing this. I get up several times during the night and eat to maintain my size.
I can tell from your pictures that you have a favorable metabolic rate. You got very ripped in a short period of time. Looking good.
On a side note, I had to chuckle at your exchange with BA69 on that other board. Brother, that is not you talking.....you are in full competition mode........full of juice, short on carbs and fats, and ready to rumble, which is the way all serious competitors are before a show. It's a war! In my youth, I would argue and fight with everyone during the last few weeks. Nothing unusual at all.

 

[ironmaster]

Bigdelt, I'm very interested in hearing your final report on long 3. Just been waiting on some user feedback about this product. It does look promising.

 

[Ken]

Bigdelt, I'm very interested in hearing your final report on long 3. Just been waiting on some user feedback about this product. It does look promising.

I am fairly new to this, you can tell from my first 20 posts.. LOL.. But since I have joined Steroidology and reading daily, I have learned 20 times what most learn in a year.. I am going to take the IGF-1 plunge! It looks like a 'no brainer' and seems to be better then GH and Slin IMO... I have read TONS about it on some other boards and will have to say I think I will try it out for a year(with correct time off, of course between months) and see how it goes..

I honestly think it could be the way to go OTHER then AAS..

 

[bigdelt69]

If the next three weeks are anything like the first then I will be sold on this stuff. It has only been a little over a week and I have droped more bf then I did with GH. All I can say is this is some powerfull stuff!

 

[needsize]

Awesome IM, thanks. I was paranoid about gaining tons of bf or having to eat like I was getting ready for a show 24/7, which I dont want to do.
This diet thing is making me a little cranky now....

 

[Jyzza]

If the next three weeks are anything like the first then I will be sold on this stuff. It has only been a little over a week and I have droped more bf then I did with GH. All I can say is this is some powerfull stuff!

How many mcgs are you taking daily? And at what times do you inject.....


My IGF-1 experience was ok......I was only able to be on it for 6-7 days since unexpectedly a trip came up for me so I couldn't take it w/ or continue it for 5 days.......

I believe that I started to feel the pumps from it and its effects but couldn't continue it.....

I first shot was a.m. then 2nd was 7 hours later @ 20mcg each injection since L IGF-1 is about 7-8 hour lasting......

I will be trying it again in few weeks @ 60mcgs daily split to 2 dosages as before for 1 month.....

 

[Ken]

Jyzza..

How did you actually get the IGF-1 IN your pin?? I am hearing alot of different info as how to actually extract it from the vial.. SInce its such a small quantity we are dealing with what worked best for you??

Thanks

 

[bigdelt69]

jyzza- I have been using 60 mcgs split into two doses. I have read that some people respond much better than others due to each of us having different numbers of IGFBP's. For some reason I seem to respond VERY well to this stuff.

 

[Jyzza]

Ken.......why not get different pinz then.....the ones that only go up to 30iu.......it gets easier in measuring.......then just measure out what dose you have.......that’s how I did it......nothing special.....you can inject it like that or mix that amount that you have in the pin w/ BW.....up to you.......but if you will mix w/ BW then remember not to mix the entire vial as the BW will kill your IGF-1 after x amount of hours……

You r dosage also depends on how many cc of BA it was suspended in...1cc of BA or 2cc of BA...

 

[slicli]

bump

 

[Ken]

Ken.......why not get different pinz then.....the ones that only go up to 30iu.......

Do you know of anyone that sells them that small??

 

[Victorian guy]

R3-IGF-1 - anyone know who manufactures it? What brand names does it go under? Any Chinese manufacturers?

 

[ironmaster]

Since we don't name sources here, suffice it to say that it's an underground lab. That's why I'm interested in user feedback.

 

[Trevdog]

As I understand it, it is legal or quasi legal and is produced by a legitimate manufacturer in Australia. However, they won't ship it to an individual, you are supposed to be a lab or something. Therefore, those that have access can mark it up and resell it.

 

[ironmaster]

One of the canadian UG labs is offering this item under their own label.....of course that doesn't mean that they produce it themselves.
I think it is legal for "research purposes".