Muscle Addictions S-4 & MK-2866 SARMs Log

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Beast ***e!!!
Whaz up!

So this will be my very first experience with SARMs, and I am excited to say the least. I have done much research, and with assistance of some very knowledgeable brothers on this forum I have a nice SARMs cycle laid out with some additional support supplements to go along with it. For this cycle I am looking for a recomposition, drop body fat while maintaining or even gaining lean muscle. The SARMs I am going to go with are S-4 and MK-2866 from Uniquemicals. I am currently finishing off a post cycle therapy (pct) from an Epi-Strong cycle, and had the SARMs planned as a bridge between cycles, and to continue to keep moving towards my goal is to get on stage again and compete.

I really was debating whether or not I was going to create a log for this as I am infamous for starting a log out strong and detailed, and falling into procrastinating behavior, work, family, life taking my time and I think you know where I am going with this. But there are a couple of brothers here who are motivating me to do so, Dylan and FL3X have offered to keep me honest, help me follow through on my log, and give support so we will see if this helps lol!!! It actually is giving me more motivation to follow through completely time, so as they say “let’s kill this sh*t!!!”

Cycle:

1-10 Uniquemicals S-4 (50 mg ED, 25 mg morning/ 25 mg evening) may adjust depending on sides
1-10 Uniquemicals MK-2866 (25 mg ED morning) this should be fine
1-10 Bridge (3 caps ED)
1-10 Need2Slin (4 caps ED, spread out 30 min prior to carb meals, pre-fasted cardio)
1-10 Anabeta (4 Caps ED)
1-10 Forged Steel (RD)
1-4 Forged Burner (RD)

I will also be using these staple supplements:

Gear (10 caps ED pre/post workout, in-between meals)
Ruthless 3D Multi Vitamin (3 caps ED spread w/meals)
EFA’s (6 softgels ED w/meals)
Whey to Build Muscle and Muscle Replenisher proteins for shakes
Creatine & BCAA’s Powerchews (15 grams Creatine ED, BCAA’s for sweet tooth attacks!!!)
N2KTS or PWO Zero Loss or PWO Powerchews (obviously pre-workout)
HCGenerate (will have on hand, but just finishing off 2 consecutive bottles so take a break from it)

Diet/Nutrition:

My maintenance calories are around 3400 ED, so to start I will target my calories around 2900 cals on training days, and 2400 cals on non-training days and see how that works and adjust as needed. I want to be able to have some room to tweak, plus I end up looking flat when I diet down, and I don’t like it! I will carb cycle, and schedule my moderate carb days on leg/chest days for more fuel obviously. My carbohydrate sources will mainly be yams/sweet potatoes, Ezekiel bread, Quinoa, Black Beans, Oats, and Brown Rice. As you see all of my carbohydrates are high in fiber, and of course I will be eating a ton of Broccoli, Zucchini, Asparagus (when not so pricey), salads, and green beans, I am big on organic veggies, and I can’t get enough of them! Healthy fats will be peanut butter, olive oil, Avocado, Almonds, stuff like that. Proteins will be chicken, turkey, lean steak or ground round (always grass fed), eggs, fish, and shakes. I make these really good homemade Rocky Road Protein Bars, and will check the macros on those because they are great for those times at work when you are going from meeting to meeting, or in a classroom training so I will have those ready anyway, because my 6 year old little girls likes them too .

Cardio:

I am at 5 days a week @ 45 minutes treadmill, and will continue with that and increase/modify as needed. I am going to learn how to jump rope too, my little girl is going to teach me she says , so that will be some good addition to the other cardio. I will not do cardio on leg days and I will give myself off Sundays for family and chore day we will see if I can stay out of the gym lol!!!

Weights:

HEAVY!!! 5x5, 15-20 rep sets, 8-10 rep sets, 100’s, I will mix it up all the time and my energy levels at times will determine what I do but it is all about keeping the muscle guessing!

Stats:

228 lbs.
6’1” (lost an inch or two over the years from heavy squats and dead’s lol!!)
41 years young!!!
BF% (unknown at this time, but will post progress photos, keep my wife’s involvement and interest)
Been lifting for 18+ years, competed in 2005 & 2007 (1st place and (3) 2nd place finishes, and want to place overall my next time on stage.

I hope you will follow along on this one, as I will put 1000% into this goal of mine. I am going to play it safe and say realistically I will be updating this log every 3 days, but will do it more frequently as necessary. Although, this is my first dabble at SARMs, and am really excitied to see how they work for me, so my ambition and desire is there...and now that I have brothers in my corner, lets do this!

Thanks for reading my biography lol!!! Hopefully you will follow along.
 
Day #1:

Alright, this is the first day of the cycle and this morning at 4:15 am I took my first dose of S-4 and MK-2866. I will say...the taste is much to be desired :insane:...no like the taste!! Although, not as bad as some of the research chems I have had in the past.

I hit back this morning and cardio for 45 minutes on the treadmill. I still have some supplements left from PCT (like 2 more days worth of Post Cycle/Unleashed, N2 Burn, quite a bit left of N2 Flame and N2 Stim) so I am going to just continue to finish those off while starting the cycle. I dropped my Bridge dose from double to single, and will keep it at 3 caps ED (morning/afternoon/evening meals) for rest of cycle. I will just lay out my back routine from this morning:

Lat Pulldowns: 6 sets (15/12/10/10/8/8), 120/150/180/210/240/255
Close Grip Seated Rows: 4 sets (15/12/12/12), 200/225/250/250
Close Grip High Rows: 4 sets (12/12/12/12), 250 (I add two 25 lb weights to the stack due to it only goes to 200) reason for high reps
Bent Over DB Rows: 4 sets (12/10/8/8), 75/85/95/100
Deadz: 4 sets (10/8/6/6), 225, 315, 355, 405 (my lower back has been bothering me a bit, so just concentrated on strict form and did static holds after each set for 30-60 seconds)

So that was the workout for today, I may hit biceps later in my garage gym, but at home with my daughter today (Spring Break) so if weather is nice we will go out and play!

Gotta go eat...enjoy your day :biggthump!!!
 
Day #2:

I just got back from the gym, today was supposed to be just cardio, but did some biceps as well...I took my doses of S-4 and MK-2866, need2slin, Anabeta, 6 caps of N2 Amp, Gear, and 1 scoop PWO Zero Loss and sweated like a mofo! Did 45 minutes fasted cardio first , then hit a lot of negatives and forced reps on biceps and the pumps were outrageous! They were like little lobsters popping out of the tail shell, just painfully engorged with blood...love it! Everything just feels really tight, full muscles, nice vascularity, I am really enjoying this. I know this isn't a cycle of Test or anything...that is coming later...but really a great sense of wellbeing, and feeling strong.

This was my bicep workout:

DB Curls (rotating wrists so palms are facing floor on negatives): 4 sets (12/10/8/8), 30/35/40/45 lbs
Standing EZ Bar Curls: 4 sets (10/8/8/6), 95/115/125/130 lbs...slow negatives
Preacher BB Curls: 4 sets (8/8/8/8), 125 lbs...slow negatives
Low Cable Curls: 3 sets (10 reps), 100 lbs...negatives all the way

Just sitting here updating and drinking a Rocky Road WTBM shake w/10 grams creatine...no carbs, low carb/calorie day today, and waiting for my little girl to wake up...some nice quiet time for me.

Later!!
 
Day #4:

So, I took my doses of S-4 (25 mg) and MK-2866 (25 mg), need2slin, Anabeta, 6 caps of N2 Amp, Gear, and 1 scoop N2KTS (Green Apple, mixed with EAA-BCAA...had some left that I sip on during workout). I did 45 minutes fasted cardio first , and then it was time to hit shoulders. I decided to do cardio first for fasted utilizing need2slin, plus it was cold and I like to have the body warmed up prior to hitting the weights. I hit shoulders pretty good...

Shoulder/Trap workout:

Low Cable Crossing Side Lateral Raises: 5 sets/1 warm up, (20/15/12/10/10 reps), 20/25/30/35/40 lbs...nice and pumped
Military Press: 4 sets (10/8/8/6 reps), 135/185/205/225 lbs...last set performed drop set back to 135 for slow negatives
DB Alternating Front Raises: 4 sets (10 reps), 35/40/45/50
DB Side Lateral Raises (thumbs up): 4 sets (12/10/10/8 reps), (25/30/35/35)...controlled, slow negatives...good burn!
(Superset w/)Trap bar Shrugs: 4 sets (12 reps...2 second hold at top), 225 lbs...I can shrug more, but will do HEAVY when I go to Powerhouse on weekend when I have access to a powerack.

My shoulders were feeling really pumped up today...to the point they were painful. I think the combination of N2 Amp, N2KTS, and SARMs (specifically S-4) really got the blood flowing to the body part I was training. I had a very nice round cantelope look to them in the mirror...nice and full!

Once I got home from the gym, prior to the shower, I had a Muscle Replenisher shake, my dose of Bridge, Anabeta, Gear, and at this time I also took my first dose of Forged Burner to keep my metabolism ramped up after my workout...and damn that stuff is good! I took it with 1 N2 Stim as well...nice smooth energy all morning!!!

There is one thing that I notice when taking my 2nd dose of S-4 in the afternoon...kind of a rush of aggression, it is hard to describe, I don't feel it in the morning most likely due to I'm jacked up on my pre-workouts, and I just woke up at 4 a.m. Like yesterday, when I got home from work it was a bit late, but I try and space out S-4 every 12 hours. I took my 25 mg dose and proceeded to make dinner...chicken tenderloins, asparagus, and the wife and daughter also had rice...I had a Greek Yogurt for desert. Anyway, I have been feeling this rush of aggression while I was cooking dinner...to the point where I get cocky, as I said hard to explain. When I get home I will take my dose and see how I can better explain it.

I weighed myself yesterday (OFF day from gym...had to get some rest) at 226.5 which is already down from 228-230, so moving in the right direction, but the initial weight loss is more dramatic than it will continue to be I'm sure.


Later!!
 
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Day #5:

Good morning folks! So yesterday I did my morning supplement ritual (not going to keep posting the same information every time...you know what I am supplementing with lol!!) and was able to go to Powerhouse Gym for my leg day. I was disappointed to say the least due to I hit a freaking wall during my workout! I didn't eat any carbs the night before, or prior to my workout (my fault), just had one of my Protein Bars. So this is what I was able to accomplish thought...

Legs (mostly quads):

Warm up: Exercise Bike for 15 minutes (level 10 to warm up the knees)

Leg Extensions: 5 sets/1 warm up, (20/15/12/10/10 reps), 100/130/160/190/220 lbs...got their attention!!!
Leg Press: 8 sets (15/12/10/10/8/8/8/6 reps), 485/665/845/935/1025/1115/1115/1115 lbs...this is where I hit the wall!!!
Squats: 4 sets (10 reps), 135/225/225/225...made sure form was on par, ass to the ground, and I was winded big time!
Hammer Strength Extensions (with static holds at top): 4 sets (10 reps), (50/90/90/90)...controlled, hold at top of each rep for 2 count, slow negatives...I was done !

I really do hate having a sub-par workout to start my day, but my legs and glutes are pretty sore today so I got something done. I am about to head to the gym for hams/calves/cardio and then enjoy the rest of the day dying Easter eggs with my little girl .

I ate an additional serving of oatmeal yesterday after my workout, and had a ton of protein and veggies for lunch and dinner, Greek Yogurt w/Rocky Road protein mixed in for snack in the afternoon (taste just like pudding...so freaking good!), a few shakes (Muscle Replenisher after training, WTBM the rest of them), and homemade Protein Bars for snacks when hunger hit...but not to over do it...just wanted to make sure I fueled today's workout.

I hear the strength comes on gradually with sarms, so am just waiting for that to happen...but I honestly feel that nutrition had a big play in yesterday's workout...or lack there of.

Well, wish me luck, heading to gym now to get it done!
 
Day #8 & 9:

Alright, lets catch up a bit, everything is going pretty well and I am just staying disciplined to my nutrition and training, as well as the supplement regimen. Nothing has changed as far as dosing except for I am dosing the 2nd dose of S-4 in the afternoon (8-12 hours apart depending on when I wake up). I am feeling good, a couple of days I was a bit tired but that may have been due to not getting enough sleep last week during the early part of the week, the Forged Burner is doing me good for energy though (still stacking it with my leftover N2 Stim and Flame).

So yesterdays workout (Day #8) was chest/abs:

Hammer Strength Incline Press: 5 sets/1 warm up, (20/12/10/8/8 reps), 90/140/180/230/270 lbs, nice pump at this point
Incline DB Press (palms in): 4 sets (10/8/8/6 reps), 75/80/85/90 lbs
Decline BB press (wide grip): 4 sets (10/8/6/4-12 reps), 185/225/245/265-185 burn out set
Incline Low Cable Flys: 4 sets (12/10/10/8 reps), (50/70/90/100), controlled, slow negatives, good burn!
Chest Press Machine: 4 sets (10 reps, slow negative), 140/150/160/170

Abs: Lying leg raises, knee-ups, and cable crunches done!!!

So this mornings workout (which is Day #9) was shoulders/cardio:

DB Overhead Press: 6 sets/1 warm up, (20/5/5/5/5/5 reps), 40/60/70/80/90 lbs
Side Lateral DB raises: 4 sets (10/8/8/6 reps), 35/40/45/50 lbs
BB Upright Rows (wide grip): 4 sets (12 reps), 50/60/70/80 lbs
Pec Deck Rear Delts: 4 sets (12/10/10/8 reps), 145/160/175/190 lbs

45 minutes cardio on treadmill (3.8 @ 6% incline) fasted!!!

This morning I was pressed for time, so the shoulder workout was done in 35 minutes total, just moved through as fast as I could without sacrificing exercises and range of motion, to know me is to know I am all about form!!! If you ask anybody in either gym I train at my form is dialed at all times, I don't do too many cheat reps, I feel like I'm cheating myself out of the set.

Right now I just reached into my lunchbox and pulled out my afternoon Rocky Road pudding, 1 cup NF Plain Greek Yogurt mixed w/ 1 scoop Rocky Road protein, 55 grams of protein, 11 grams carbs, and approx 240 calories, delicious!

Oh, forgot...starting weight was 228, weighed in this morning at 223.5 first thing prior to my fasted cardio session...moving in the right direction! The owner of my gym commented to me yesterday how noticeably leaner I look in one week. I will post some pictures next week, along with weight! It's pretty exciting!
 
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Day #10

Just wanted to post up my workout from this morning...which was fasted cardio and biceps/triceps:

This was my bicep/tricep workout:

Preacher Curl Machine: 5 sets...1 warm up (20/12/10/10/10), 80/100/120/140/160 lbs
Seated BB Curls: 4 sets (10/8/8/6), 75/85/95/105 lbs...slow negatives and 2 second holds, tension the whole time
Low Cable Rope Curls: 4 sets (12/10/10/8), 120/130/140/160 lbs...squeeze at the top of movement, really hit peaks
Reverse Grip Ez Bar Curls: 3 sets (10 reps), 120 lbs...negatives all the way

Rope Presses: 5 sets...1 warm up (20/12/10/10/10), 80/120/140/160/170 lbs
Lying DB Extensions: 4 sets (10/8/8/6), 25/30/35/35 lbs
Close Grip Push-ups: 4 sets (12 reps)

This was a light tricep workout as I will hit them again this weekend at my other gym...better equipment and free weight benches for close grip bench press.

Cardio was performed first...normal 45 minutes treadmill 3.8 @ 6% incline, slow and steady, sweated like a pig due to N2 Amp and need2slin dosed prior to.

One thing I am trying out this morning is IF...so the last thing I had to eat last night at 8 pm was my desert of 1 cup NF Plain Greek Yogurt w/ 1 scoop Rocky Road WTBM whey protein mixed...can't get enough of this stuff!!! I have had BCAAs this morning along with my other supplements...including Forged Burner, N2 Stim and Flame, and sarms of course. I have to say I thought it would be more difficult, yes I am really hungry right now, but just been drinking my coffee and drinking water and will have my first meal a noon...which will consist of 10 egg whites w/ 1 packet low sugar instant oatmeal mixed together, peanut butter, Muscle Replenisher shake (normally would have this within 45 minutes of training)...and then later will have 8 oz ground turkey with asparagus, broccoli, and zuchinni, and Greek Yogurt...not sure what I will have for dinner yet...will decide later.

I just wanted to see how I would react to the whole not eating thing during IF, and I think I am handling it pretty damn well...I will eat in 1 1/2 hours and eat for the following 8 hours and maybe try it again for tomorrow...or just change it up a bit each day and keep my body guessing.
 
So dinner was baked chicken thighs (3) and asparagus w/Wasabi mayo...excellent! Made another batch of homemade protein bars that are in the fridge setting, and going to continue IF (Intermittent Fasting)...so I won't eat again until noon tomorrow (16 hours fasting). Take it day by day!
 
Day #11:

No weights today...just 50 minutes cardio on treadmill @ 3.8 mph, 6% incline...just like the other days. I weighed myself this morning and I am down another 1/2 lb (223 even)...I really need to stop weighing myself regularly, I know better. So from now on once a week on Monday's I will weigh in.

Lets see if I can post some pics up today so I really put myself on the spot to keep disciplined and have all of you keep me focused and honest...see photos below...


I really hate the lighting, and taking photos of myself...cropped out my ugly mug lol! Obviously you can verify it is me by my ink for future progress pics I will post weekly...but I look a bit soft and smooth in these...probably because I am lol!!

My nutrition is still on par and have not had a cheat day yet, I may not for the next 4 weeks...as I try and stay disciplined to my nutrition. As we all need to to keep sane while getting shredded, I will have my occassional slices of BBQ Chicken pizza, or head over to the HMB Brewery for a nice Mavericks Brown Ale and a plate of Grilled Fish tacos, or a Mavericks burger...but ultimately it is a lifestyle that I have adopted and that includes how and what I eat. The guilt sets in for me if I stray away from what my goals are...my motto is "if I'm not growing...I'm not happy!" I love food don't get me wrong, but if I can eat healthy, meaning grass fed beef, free range/cage free chicken, organic fruits and veggies, Greek Yogurt has become a savior in my nutrition...1 cup Greek Yogurt mixed with 1 scoop Rocky Road protein, my version of healthy pudding. I lead by example for my family and friends...I have a dozen or so friends that want me to regularly make them my homemade protein bars...they call them "Gold" lol!!! A good friend of mine who does Zumba like 2-3 times a day placed and order for 2 batches last night and doesn't care about the cost...she just wants them lol! My wife and daughter follow my lead as well...it truly is a lifestyle!

It all comes down to your desire and goals for yourself...mine is to be in condition to get ready for a BB competition in no more than 12 weeks...less if possible, 8 would be optimal. I look at it this way...I am 42 years old this year, I have had 42 years of eating basically anything and everything so to switch up the last half of my life and choose to follow a healthier way of nutrition and applying what I have learned over the years of training and my constant quest for building the best physique that I can with all the power inside of me...then that is what I am going to choose to do. It is a conscience decision at every meal I pack in my lunchbox for the day...for instance here is what I will eat today starting at noon (I am following IF with assistance of Rick at moment...day 2...wish me luck!):

12 noon: 10 egg whites w/Low sugar cinnamon spice instant oatmeal and peanut butter (approx 2 tbsp) drizzled on top, 1/2 chicken
breast.

2 pm: 1 homemade Rocky Road protein bar (basically the same as Better Protein bars, just tweaked a bit...added Flax Meal)

4 pm: 8 oz Ground Turkey w/Asparagus, Zuchinni, and Broccoli, 1 cup Brazilian style beans (mother-in-laws recipe, healthy!)

6 pm: 1 cup NF plain Greek Yogurt mixed w/1 scoop Rocky Road protein...my pudding !

8 pm: 8-10 oz Baked Chicken Thighs, same veggies as above, 1 protein bar for dessert

So that is what is laid out for today, I also have additional protein shake in my cooler for one of the meals for added protein...but as you can see I am getting ample amout of protein a day. This is how I always eat except on the weekends is when I will get creative and make Ezekiel French Toast, Muscle Chili, eat some whole eggs...maybe some chicken apple sausage , make grass fed burgers (homemade) with avocado, onion, lettuce, tomatoe, sweet potatoe fries, I think you get the picture.

There is so much you can do with healthy food to make it fun and exciting to eat, I just create when I am in the kitchen!!!

So there you have it...that is how I roll in a nutshell...and you can do it to bro, EVERYONE can do it!

So here you go for today, and as always thanks for following along and keeping me honest!!!
 
Lookin good bro. How do you feel energy wise. I started S4 about a week ago and honestly I'm completely drained for some reason. Getting shitty workouts in. No energy at all. Trying to decide if I'm going to add GW 501516 or Ostarine to it to see if it makes any difference. I was set on S4 and GW501516, because I want to do some extreme cutting right now, but the Dylan suggested S4 and Ostra instead. I have all three, but am still on the fence.
 
nice job my friend looking good brudda
how do u feel in the gym? strenth or endurance increase?

Thanks bro, no nothing too noticable as far as strength or endurance yet anyway, todays workout did kind of suffer but I think it was more of a mood thing...but pushed through it. I will post it up in a bit.

Keep it up man, things are looking great thus far!
Nice ink by the way!

Thanks FL3X, the big piece is a work in progress on my shoulder, it is a cover up of another older panther tattoo that at one time was big on my arm but as my arms grew it became a kitten lol! So hopefully will have that arm finished by the end of the year...still a lot of skin to cover lol!

Lookin good bro. How do you feel energy wise. I started S4 about a week ago and honestly I'm completely drained for some reason. Getting shitty workouts in. No energy at all. Trying to decide if I'm going to add GW 501516 or Ostarine to it to see if it makes any difference. I was set on S4 and GW501516, because I want to do some extreme cutting right now, but the Dylan suggested S4 and Ostra instead. I have all three, but am still on the fence.

Hey thanks bro, as you can see in my supplement layout I am also taking Forged Burner which is giving me the energy, but funny you say because today my workout did suffer a bit although I did do 50 min of cardio prior to doing back and I think being fasted my glycogen was depleted and I was drenched in sweat...and I know I was in a ketosis state as well due to my sweat smelled like ammonia...which isn't a good thing, but am in my 8 hour feed time on IF and just don't have the energy to eat, so I can't honestly tell you what is causing it. I don't know anything about GW, but am educating myself more on peptides and chems of that nature...honestly I just can't wait to get on some test later, feel so good when on cycle...euphoric and a good sense of well being...plus strong as an Ox!
 
Day #12 & 13:

Well the past couple of days my energy levels have bottomed out...man yesterday was difficult as I just wanted to lay around and do absolutely nothing...but I got my workout done with the help of N2 Amp and PWO Powerchews. So, being I had the day off of work, I went to the gym around 10 a.m., big mistake! Too many people, too many trainers, I do not like crowds especially when I want to train without interruptions. So I started my workout with cardio...probably not the best thing to do considering being fasted and glycogen was at a minimum already from low carbs and fasted, but I did 50 min treadmill @ regular 3.8 mph, 6% incline. I was soaked in sweat afterwards and my sweat smelled heavy of ammonia...ketosis, but still managed to get through a light back workout:

Close Grip High Cable Rows: 5 sets-1 warm up, 20/15/12/10/10 reps, 150/180/200/225/225 lbs.
Bent Over BB Rows: 4 sets, 15/12/10/10 reps, 135/185/205/225 lbs.
One Arm DB Rows (off rack): 4 sets, 10/10/8/8 reps, 90/100/100/100 lbs. (DB at this gym only go to 100 )
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown: 4 sets, 12/10/8/6 reps, 160/190/220/230 lbs. (energy tanking hard!)
Pullups: 3 sets, 8/6/6 reps...lol! 223 lbs (my current weight)

Since my workout ended right around the time for my feed coming off of a 16 hour fast, I had a Muscle Replenisher shake, went and picked up my daughter from school, then came home and had:

10 egg whites w/1 pack Low Sugar Instant Oatmeal & 2 Tbsp Peanut Butter (still was hungry) so
1 Homemade Rocky Road Protein Bar for dessert .

I ended up eating this 2 hours later as well, then was eating leftovers from the week every 2 hours there after up until 8 pm (chicken, ground turkey w/veggies, spaghetti sauce with ground chicken, etc.)

So last night I hit the pillow a little late (11 pm), had both my wife and my daughter fall asleep on my lap watching a movie , then I slept in today to get some much needed sleep that I never seem to be able to get during the week, so I got about 9 hours last night and still feel tired. The wife is at work until 3:30 pm and I won't be able to get to the gym until later, so updating my log and going to make breakfast for the little one.

I will probably hit chest/calves/cardio this afternoon, hoping crowd will be light on a Saturday afternoon on the coast, and we will go from there. I will hit legs tomorrow at my other gym Powerhouse and eat some carbs today so I can hit them heavy!

Have a great day folks...train hard!
 
Hey boss I'm real interested in hearing if your energy level returned with some carbs. I'm cutting carbs as well, but I kind of feel like the S4 that I'm taking is draining my energy. Also I'm 7 days in @50 mg per day and everything is starting to turn yellow. I'm thinking of taking a couple days off, but an curious if you continue to feel drained, then I might just switch to Ostra and GW instead of the S4.
 
Hey boss I'm real interested in hearing if your energy level returned with some carbs. I'm cutting carbs as well, but I kind of feel like the S4 that I'm taking is draining my energy. Also I'm 7 days in @50 mg per day and everything is starting to turn yellow. I'm thinking of taking a couple days off, but an curious if you continue to feel drained, then I might just switch to Ostra and GW instead of the S4.

Well, today I was tanked, did not go to the gym at all, just left it as a recovery day. I'm seriously not sure of it is the low carbs, the fasting, or the S4...but yeah I started seeing the yellow about a week ago, but they seemed to have passed...or I'm just used to it...whatever it was I thought my eyes were just tired. I know I won't feel tremendous flux in energy until tomorrow morning when I go train, so I will let you know manana!
 
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