Muscle quality on diff steroids

[Lucky13]

So certain steroids Tren, Var, Winstrol (winny) for example are well known for improving muscle quality i.e that hard defined look but after the cycle is there really any differece with muscle created with something like Test, dbol.

Isn't it really just down to BF% and the illusion your muscle quality has improved....surely muscle grown on tren is the same as muscle grown on Test ?

 

[blackjack]

correct. any drug induced changes will leave soon after the drug is taken away, however if ones conditioning is top notch, BF% is low,and no water is retained, then that hard dense look can be maintained. But if the only contributing factor to a hardened appearance is a drug, then it goes away with the drug.

 

[pineapple]

Muscle is muscle and fat is fat. Oh yeah, and fat doesnt turn into muscle, just in case some are still wondering.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

The 3 primary things that contribute to the look of your muscle are; muscle fiber, fat, and of course water.

The whole idea that certain gear makes you "hard" is really just the result of how particular substances effect your water retention. You are in control of the fat issue to a good extent, and of course its safe to say we are all here to increase the size of our muscle fiber.

In the end, muscle "grown" on any substance is really just increased muscle fiber diameter. Its all the shit in between that effects the overall look.

 

[Lucky13]

So when people talk about Tren changing there whole bodyshape and muscle composition in reality the exact same results could be achieved with a Test cycle and carful diet to keep bf% low....?

 

[Trucker111]

So when people talk about Tren changing there whole bodyshape and muscle composition in reality the exact same results could be achieved with a Test cycle and carful diet to keep bf% low....?

I'd say final results would be the same.. like after PCT.. but during would be different for the reasons stated above by DougoeFre5h.

 

[Frankie xq]

So when people talk about Tren changing there whole bodyshape and muscle composition in reality the exact same results could be achieved with a Test cycle and carful diet to keep bf% low....?

yes and no. tren won't make you hold water, so during the cycle you will have a diff look than if you were on test. there is also speculation (or proof) that certain drugs, like tren have qualities that raise metabolism moreso than something like deca or test.