Need a bulk meal plan really bad!
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Drewsifer69
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So you think I'm more or less than 6%... I work for UPS and I load the boxes into the delivery cars right now... walking constantly for 5 hours and moving boxes from 1lbs-150lbs and I sometimes in the morning play a few games of racquetball before my workout but I am gonna stop playing because I don't wanna burn calories
shockandawelifter
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OK, this is like where someone with a BMI of 50 comes in and asks how to lose some weight. You don't go off the deep end straight away talking about macronutrients and phytochemicals imo. I have found they get overwhelmed and say fuckit and keep eating fried pork 8 times a day.
I think it works well to have a fatty start by identifying where the super excess calories come from, 4 liters of coke/day (not diet mind you), that kind of stuff. They drop weight great that way.
Drewsifer, find a good calorie source that works well for you and eat it. I totally agree with BJ on the insulin spike but will say that in someone with a high level of activity can do the carbs and fat or carbs and whatever because they are in constant need of fuel. Their liver glycogen stores never fully replenish.
If you got a desk job things are different. You got to pay attention to the details more then .
you got to figure out what you burn a day and then bump it up by 500 cal or so. see what response you get. You got to be honest with yourself though otherwise all bets are off
I think it works well to have a fatty start by identifying where the super excess calories come from, 4 liters of coke/day (not diet mind you), that kind of stuff. They drop weight great that way.
Drewsifer, find a good calorie source that works well for you and eat it. I totally agree with BJ on the insulin spike but will say that in someone with a high level of activity can do the carbs and fat or carbs and whatever because they are in constant need of fuel. Their liver glycogen stores never fully replenish.
If you got a desk job things are different. You got to pay attention to the details more then .
you got to figure out what you burn a day and then bump it up by 500 cal or so. see what response you get. You got to be honest with yourself though otherwise all bets are off
Drewsifer69
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3J
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Ur first paragraph got me lost. Wheres the fat guy? What do u mean u dont talk about macronutrients. Where are u going with this?
What i am saying is people tend to get overwhelmed with some of the details we can lay on them. I get the weight complaint primarily from fat people, just illustrating two sides of the spectrum.
With this guys activity level he does just need to eat while he figures out the details. That is if he wants to gain weight.
Also, not saying macros arn't important not at all. He said he was confused by them> My point is that if macros confuse him getting into the intricacies of the antagonistic effect of carb induced insulin spikes and protein induced glucagon peaks is probably not going to help him reach his goals.
I have a tendency to get a little cereberal with some of this stuff and as a result have probably not effectively helped as many people as I could have.
I have a tendency to get a little cereberal with some of this stuff and as a result have probably not effectively helped as many people as I could have.
I totally agree, the science is rock solid. I just think that we forget sometimes that someone straight off the street is blown away by some of the details. I look at like give me 3 months, the first 6 weeks we are going to change the stuff that is totally fucked in your diet either keeping you fat or keeping you skinny. After that comes the fun stuff.
Drewsifer69
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Still confused a little. Right now I'm taking it that I should eat whatever I can whenever I can and not worry about how much fat there is etc. just eat!?
shockandawelifter
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make homemade protein bars and use the programs i posted on yor other thread
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The guy has thick skin. I never would have tolerated people talking to me the way it has happened here. I didn't see him mention anything about training for Mr.Olimpia. Fact is that he's going to get discouraged pretty quick and not come back here ever again. I wouldn't blam him if he didn't. All he wants to do is put some meat on his bones and some muscle for the ladies. He's 22 years old and can probly burn 1000 calories just thinking about going to the gym. People are getting freaked out over a lousy bagel and PB. I gave him good andvice and I think he should take it.
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Hey for a guy like this i would agree some pb&j is a good way to add some calories. Right, he is 22 and can burn calories like a ferret on meth.
It sucks to see these guys hit about 28 working in HR somewhere having gained about 80 pounds of fat. Then they start talking about how they use to have a metabolism like a banshee and dont know what happened.
