I've took a test only cycle before and always took in shot arm. I am ready to get serious now and have purchased sut 325 , deca 300 ( injectables) and anadrol ( oral). I would like some excperienced advice on good dosage and proper way to administer injectables. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Need Help with dosage
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Bullseye Forever
Prince of Darkness
no offense my friend,i think more research is needed on your part
None taken. I''m not asking how to inject just if its better to inject in arm or thigh, or it doesn't matter. And with dosage i've printed off tons of research but every thing is different no 2 things suggest the same. I know wisdom comes with excperience, would just like some advice from someone that maybe on similar cycle
JWS77
...I am your Father
Doesn't matter where you inject IM, as long as it is deep in the muscle. Typically users will inject thigh/delt/glutes, as those are meatier spots...and move injections spots around for ease of pain and to minimize scar tissue. I would just stick with deca and Sustanon (sust), as I'm guessing you are fairly inexperienced with aas. Anadrol is pretty harsh and if you are already running deca for bulk, that with test should do fine for you. Typical novice doses for this stack would be around 500mg test EW, 400mg deca EW for 12 weeks. You will need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and most would recommend hcg on-cycle as well, followed by pct.
kjkinger77
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First off, what are your stats (age,height,weight, bf%)???
Second, doesn't matter where you inject, it all goes in you the same. Delts, quads, lats, etc... all the same one inch pin for all, except 1 1/2" for glutes, 5/8" for biceps and shit if ya wanna get silly, theres no need for that shit!
I do delts and quads with 23g x 1"... some say thats too big, except im fine with it id rather have a thicker needle than have a 25g break off inside me, guys on here will argue this, but i like 23g, just feel more comfortable with it...
But you have to give us stats before you go any further, and you do not need anadrol, that will bloat you, fuck your liver up and drops out of your system fast... fuck anadrol.... just give stats and we will help
Second, doesn't matter where you inject, it all goes in you the same. Delts, quads, lats, etc... all the same one inch pin for all, except 1 1/2" for glutes, 5/8" for biceps and shit if ya wanna get silly, theres no need for that shit!
I do delts and quads with 23g x 1"... some say thats too big, except im fine with it id rather have a thicker needle than have a 25g break off inside me, guys on here will argue this, but i like 23g, just feel more comfortable with it...
But you have to give us stats before you go any further, and you do not need anadrol, that will bloat you, fuck your liver up and drops out of your system fast... fuck anadrol.... just give stats and we will help
Yeah I'm a rookie but I appreciate it buddy. I didn't include in first post. Most articles I've read say to aminister dosage over 2 shots a week like 1 on Mon and 1 on Thurs is that correct? And as far as anadrol I can wait and include it in my stack after I get one or two under my belt, or just forget it
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JWS77
...I am your Father
You should hit the deca twice a week, so 2x200mg mon & thurs. Sustanon (sust) you should pin eod, so 125mg eod. On same day pins, you can mix the juice in same syringe. Just use 19g needles to draw from each vial, no need to push air in first with 19g. Also, you did not acknowledge my comments about you needing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct). If you don't research those = epic fail.
kjkinger77
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You should do a lean mass cycle... if your 220 18%...
Unless all you have is deca and sus... I would run eq and sus for a lean mass cycle... the deca is going to hold more water... Im on a sus and eq cycle and i am more vascular and muscles feel hard and solid all the time, i love it!
But i dont think you have a bad cycle planned with sus and deca, but, IMO opinion i would go lke this instead...
test E: 500mg/ 250 2x per week (shoot mon and thurs)
Deca: 400mg/ 200 2x per wk (mon&thurs)
(You can mix both compounds in the same syringe)
Run HCG: 250iu; 2x per week, 500iu total.... This helps your natural test production to still produce while on cycle, instead of shutting down becuase its relying on the AAS to give to you...
In other words your hypothalamus and pituitary glands continue to produce natural testosterone to signal the Luteinizing hormone to basically tell your testes to produce more testosterone... This is why your balls will get tight and hike up in your sac because they stop producing the needed test naturally...
Also get Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand (Aromatase Inhibitor) this controls estro related side effects...
Compounds like Aromasin (the best) and Arimedex ( you can get these in liq. orals from Rui, look at top of forum page)
PCT (post cycle therapy): Clomid and Nolvadex (tamoxifen) or run both together
You will get the best solid gains and keep most of them if you listen to this... Do the shit right to make your body right!
I am telling you test E only because sus is a blend of four test compounds, if your body id reacting differently you will not know which one compound could be causing it...
This is my opinion, good luck to you!!
Unless all you have is deca and sus... I would run eq and sus for a lean mass cycle... the deca is going to hold more water... Im on a sus and eq cycle and i am more vascular and muscles feel hard and solid all the time, i love it!
But i dont think you have a bad cycle planned with sus and deca, but, IMO opinion i would go lke this instead...
test E: 500mg/ 250 2x per week (shoot mon and thurs)
Deca: 400mg/ 200 2x per wk (mon&thurs)
(You can mix both compounds in the same syringe)
Run HCG: 250iu; 2x per week, 500iu total.... This helps your natural test production to still produce while on cycle, instead of shutting down becuase its relying on the AAS to give to you...
In other words your hypothalamus and pituitary glands continue to produce natural testosterone to signal the Luteinizing hormone to basically tell your testes to produce more testosterone... This is why your balls will get tight and hike up in your sac because they stop producing the needed test naturally...
Also get Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand (Aromatase Inhibitor) this controls estro related side effects...
Compounds like Aromasin (the best) and Arimedex ( you can get these in liq. orals from Rui, look at top of forum page)
PCT (post cycle therapy): Clomid and Nolvadex (tamoxifen) or run both together
You will get the best solid gains and keep most of them if you listen to this... Do the shit right to make your body right!
I am telling you test E only because sus is a blend of four test compounds, if your body id reacting differently you will not know which one compound could be causing it...
This is my opinion, good luck to you!!
Bullseye Forever
Prince of Darkness
good post brother
just research and know what you are gonna need and study on how and what you are doing so you will be doing it right
Ok guys First I want t o thank all of you for info, we all have to start somewhere nice people will take time to help us from screwing up. As far as the test I can drop the Sustanon (sust) 325 and replace it with testaplex e250, for the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I am getting liquid letro from rui-products and for post cycle therapy (pct) I am getting clomid 50mg tabs if needed i can add nolvadex 20mg tabs they are inexpensive. For the HCG will PROVIRAPLEX X 25 MG TABS be suitable and after posting this I see I have alot more research to do before I fill my first dart.
JWS77
...I am your Father
sust is test. As far as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you don't need an e2 tanker like letro, it is way too strong. Use Arimidex or aromasin instead. proviraplex is not hcg. You don't need proviraplex included in your cycle at this time. Sustanon (sust) and deca, as mentioned already is fine. Add to that, arimidex or aromasin, and hcg. Finally, add clomid or clomid and nolvadex as post cycle therapy (pct). Done.
Yeah just read up on proviraplex not what I need. I 'm on the same page as you now.
SUST and Test administered as above
hcg ( my supplier doesn't have on hand but getting for me before I start cycle)
Arimidex or aromasin for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) something as strong as liquid letro not needed
Finally clomid and nolvadex for pct.
Didn't find Arimidex or aromasin on rui-products reason I went with letro but probably just over looked.
SUST and Test administered as above
hcg ( my supplier doesn't have on hand but getting for me before I start cycle)
Arimidex or aromasin for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) something as strong as liquid letro not needed
Finally clomid and nolvadex for pct.
Didn't find Arimidex or aromasin on rui-products reason I went with letro but probably just over looked.
Bullseye Forever
Prince of Darkness
i would search around for some,cause letro is way to strong
Had to study up on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) it was new to me. Have it available to me now. Research pointed to 2000-5000 iu for 2-3 weeks in middle of cycle injected every 5 days and immideatly after cycle for 2-3 weeks. Any longer than that will do more bad than good. Have Aromasin for aromatase inhibitor and clomid and Nolvadex for post cycle therapy (pct). Thank everyone that had imput on this post I learned alot and feel more comfortable about my first cycle.
JWS77
...I am your Father
I run hcg @ 500iu every mon and thrus. Sub-q. I run it on cycle, then a blast of 500iu ED after last pin for 14-17 days depending on esters. Most here run hcg similarily.
