New Blood Work, Improvement but still low?

[Nitszo]

I'm in my mid twentys
So my test should be pretty high.

Just showing you my old results and my new results. (About 1 year separate)
I think i have hypogondasim, going to see a endocrinologist shortly.

I was currently running Dianabol @ 60-80mg Everyday, and Winstrol @ 60-80mg.
The reason for such a shitty cycle is because i cant get any Test, and im sick of training for no results.
I have noticed little results, Leaner and more cut/fuller.. but nothing to get exited about.
I used the Dianabol/Winstrol to cut, instead of bulking.

Testosterone 7.4 (1year later) > 8.0 nmol/L
SHBG 19 > 8* nmol/L
FAI 39 > 100
Free Testosterone 173.0 > 246.4 pmol/L

AST 28 > 52* U/L
ALT 45* > 146* U/L
Albumin 49 > 41* g/L

TSH 12.63 > 3.00 (100mcg T3) mu/L
Free T4 11 > 26* pmol/L

I think the Testosterone is not enough, I have been upto 600 before when i was running Primo Ace.. i think because its stimulates HPTA like Clomid (so i have read).
I had 173.0 Before i touched any gear.. I came on here and ask you guys and i also asked my local forums and they all agreed that it was low.
SO i went to the doctors.. and he told me it was "through the roof".
Went and saw another Doctor and he said that its "normal"
So, going to see a endo next.

Any/ALL advice is appreciated, Like.. What i should say to my Endocrinologist etc..
I want testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), but i dont want to have to vist the doctor once a week to get injections, that's bullshit.

 

[jomamma007]

I'm in my mid twentys
So my test should be pretty high.

Just showing you my old results and my new results. (About 1 year separate)
I think i have hypogondasim, going to see a endocrinologist shortly.

I was currently running Dianabol @ 60-80mg Everyday, and Winstrol @ 60-80mg.
The reason for such a shitty cycle is because i cant get any Test, and im sick of training for no results.
I have noticed little results, Leaner and more cut/fuller.. but nothing to get exited about.
I used the Dianabol/Winstrol to cut, instead of bulking.

Testosterone 7.4 (1year later) > 8.0 nmol/L
SHBG 19 > 8* nmol/L
FAI 39 > 100
Free Testosterone 173.0 > 246.4 pmol/L

AST 28 > 52* U/L
ALT 45* > 146* U/L
Albumin 49 > 41* g/L

TSH 12.63 > 3.00 (100mcg T3) mu/L
Free T4 11 > 26* pmol/L

I think the Testosterone is not enough, I have been upto 600 before when i was running Primo Ace.. i think because its stimulates HPTA like Clomid (so i have read).
I had 173.0 Before i touched any gear.. I came on here and ask you guys and i also asked my local forums and they all agreed that it was low.
SO i went to the doctors.. and he told me it was "through the roof".
Went and saw another Doctor and he said that its "normal"
So, going to see a endo next.

Any/ALL advice is appreciated, Like.. What i should say to my Endocrinologist etc..
I want testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), but i dont want to have to vist the doctor once a week to get injections, that's bullshit.

246 is a joke bro, in your twenty's you should be at at least 700, most people on here would probably say 1000-1200. You need to get a new doctor, or hit up Chip, he will put your levels up there. I'm pretty sure most doctor will prescribe you your own test so you can self inject, as almost everyone I know whose on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), do their own injections. Make sure to get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) if you want to feel good and have the best results. Check out this link http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/normal-testosterone-levels.html and look under Measurements in Conventional Units (ng/dl) and tell me what you think lol.

 

[Nitszo]

I dont live in America.. i live in the Country down under.
I dont think there is any options that Chip or Maximus HRT can help me with because i dont live up there.. i would have already applied for HRT with Chip/Maximus 6months ago if it was possible.

Going to see an Endocrine very shortly, within the next 2weeks i hope.
If he doesn't help me, i will then go and see the Testo clinic.
I sent an email to the Testo Clinic with my results etc.. and they said that i was in a estrogenic state.. So i am sure they can do something about it if they are specialist in Testosterone... I have to get a review from an Endo first before i can go see them.

 

[jomamma007]

I dont live in America.. i live in the Country down under.
I dont think there is any options that Chip or Maximus HRT can help me with because i dont live up there.. i would have already applied for HRT with Chip/Maximus 6months ago if it was possible.

Going to see an Endocrine very shortly, within the next 2weeks i hope.
If he doesn't help me, i will then go and see the Testo clinic.
I sent an email to the Testo Clinic with my results etc.. and they said that i was in a estrogenic state.. So i am sure they can do something about it if they are specialist in Testosterone... I have to get a review from an Endo first before i can go see them.

Hopefully your endo is good, try to explain to him/her your symptoms rather than your actual test numbers. This seems to be more effective way at convincing them you need help. If your endo is halfway decent he/she will definitely know 246 is too low for someone in their twenty's. Wish you the best mate.

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

I'd love to help you nitzo, but you are right. I can't help you outside of the us. Sucks!

 

[Nitszo]

Thanks for all the support, that website you provided was very good source of info.
Seems that my levels are lower then a 80-100 year old.. not good at all.
Also noticed that under 25 had the highest Test levels.. i am guessing they are referring to a teenagers which claim to produce 5x the amount of testosterone during puberty.

I will note symptoms like.. I struggle to get erections, always feeling sluggish
I will note that i had antidepressants for being depressed, but i will i say that i am not depressed.. its my test levels.. feeling very tired and less motivated, i thought it was my thyroid.. but i have been doing my research! *it could be my thyroid.. but either-way.. i want my testosterone fixed*
I do think testo clinic will help, they are the first company to respond to my emails and tell me that its low/estrogenic state.

 

[mlc31]

Even though Chip can't help you as your HRT/TRT consultant, he is still a wealth of information on this forum. As are most of the members here. Just because you aren't an official client of Chip and Maximus doesn't mean you can't get help in this community. Please hang around and ask questions. Everyone here is always more than happy to help out.

 

[Jbanger]

Did you get my pm?
If not was wondering how you went with testo clinic? Iam considering giving them a go any feedback would be appreciated..

Is their cream any help, I was told its meant to be "natural test" rather than synthetic therefore you get all the benefits and none of the sides. Kinda sounded bit bullshit to me so would be good to hear your opinion.

 

[davsmith]

I want testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), but i dont want to have to vist the doctor once a week to get injections

I believe what you are looking for now is to restore your hormonal axis back to work rather than just giving your body foreign testosterone
your testis can produce testosterone , then what you need to find what's wrong with the axis and fix it to make you testes produce your own testosterone ... or else they'll atrophy and you'll have problem getting kids if you wanted