New to AAS

[Ian512]

Hey guys', hope ya'll don't hate me for posting this. I'm new to AAS, but not weight lifting, shortly I will be starting my first D-bol + nolvadex (to counteract any possible gyno effects while in cycle). I've done lots of looking and broad google searches, link clicking, and reading but havn't gotten the answer to my question. D-bol/nova is a tablet that you dissolve under your tounge correct? Any input helps, thanks!

 

[FuckOprah]

Hey guys', hope ya'll don't hate me for posting this. I'm new to AAS, but not weight lifting, shortly I will be starting my first D-bol + nolvadex (to counteract any possible gyno effects while in cycle). I've done lots of looking and broad google searches, link clicking, and reading but havn't gotten the answer to my question. D-bol/nova is a tablet that you dissolve under your tounge correct? Any input helps, thanks!

-NOTE- IM NOT HATING YOU
Ok, well not to be fucked up but u need to do some more research, d-bol only cycles are a completely waste, if not all oral cycles are a waste, also running nolva during a cycle isn't the smartest thing to do as u need some estrogen to grow, usually people use AI's to prevent gyno. Also what did u have in mind for post cycle therapy (pct) (Post Cycle Therapy), since i know people who usually have a cycle in mind are really set to doing a cycling i'll lay out a cycle.


Test E @ 500mgs (shoot half on monday, the other half on thursday) for 12 weeks, 2 weeks after your last pin of test e, run clomid @ 50mgs for 4 weeks ALWAYS have nolvadex on hand in case gyno flares up.

 

[Ian512]

Fair enough, your right. I'm not to noobie to admit when I've been proved wrong or told otherwise, thanks for the quick reply btw. Haha still no answer to my question though!! I was planning on taking something I could by at GNC i.e arimatest or an LG product. I also have a full bottle of supervol, which is a barely legal prohormone that gave me great results; which could be used as a post cycle therapy (pct)? (it has factors in it that prevent Test to Estro conversions.) That last statement made it sound like I don't know what a post cycle therapy (pct) is, but I do for anyone wondering. I'm not afraid to try injectables, I just figured being this my first go at AAS I'd try an oral. Do you recommend I take the nova as a post cycle therapy (pct) instead? From the research I did D-bol can have very potent estrogenic effects causing severe gyno. Many of the more legitment AAS sites also recommend stacking similiar products when on a D-bol cycle. The stack I ordered(which I havn't recieved yet) gave instructions to take a varying amount of D-bol depending on the week you were on, and 1 nova per-day.

 

[sean usmc]

it can be but i wouldnt suggest it bro just swallow it and have liv-52 or thistle milk and take that th milk everyday

 

[estray]

- also running nolva during a cycle isn't the smartest thing to do as u need some estrogen to grow, usually people use AI's to prevent gyno. .

Nolva is not an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and it does not lower estrogen levels.



That being said, its just really not necessary to run it the whole cycle. Use it if symptoms of gyno start to appear.

 

[Ian512]

Would it be easier for digestion/liver toxicity purposes do let it dissolve instead? So the vibe I'm getting it telling me: Once you start to see symptoms of gyno it's not to late to fix them? Pop a couple nova's and you'll be fine? Just trying to get an idea of exactly what it is you guys' mean.

 

[Ozzy27]

Am I understanding this??? You are doing a d-bol only cycle? I didn't read your second post all the way but.......
You shouldn't even be doing anything yet if that be the case. I'm not even gonna tell you what should be a first cycle because you need to learn alot more before you start sticking any aas in your body. It's your body but I'm not contributing to helping you if you really plan on going through with this cycle. What are your stats...age weight years of training and diet to begin with.

 

[sean usmc]

easy Ozzy he is new to ass....

 

[Ian512]

It's alright I knew someone was going to get mad.
Stats:
lbs; 165
age; 24
years of training; 2
diet; 3,500-4,800 calories a day (right now it's christmas and I just finished a potent prohormone cycle so I'm taking nothing atm, havn't lifted in about....7 days. Just giving my body a break.


And yes this is a D-bol plus nova cycle only; if I get answers...The research I've done says plenty about d-bol only cycles and how a higher dose of it is needed to achieve results and how stacking it with a injectable is highly recommended( I've read plenty of other threads on other forums were people get flammed for running dbol only cycles). Other research said D-bol only cycles was a safe way to start a new career in AAS. I read all the newbie threads and read about Test-E cycles and what not. I've also read a conflicting number of articles/threads talking about Test-E vs. oral cycles for FIRST cycles. Just wondering what your personal beef is with d-bol only cyles Ozzy?

 

[estray]

It's alright I knew someone was going to get mad.
Stats:
lbs; 165
age; 24
years of training; 2
diet; 3,500-4,800 calories a day (right now it's christmas and I just finished a potent prohormone cycle so I'm taking nothing atm, havn't lifted in about....7 days. Just giving my body a break.


And yes this is a D-bol plus nova cycle only; if I get answers...The research I've done says plenty about d-bol only cycles and how a higher dose of it is needed to achieve results and how stacking it with a injectable is highly recommended( I've read plenty of other threads on other forums were people get flammed for running dbol only cycles). Other research said D-bol only cycles was a safe way to start a new career in AAS.

Are you running post cycle therapy (pct) for the PH cycle? Dont forget to take a break. If you ran a 4 week cycle and 4 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct) you really should wait 8 weeks before starting anything else. As for the dbol only cycle, i think it kinda sucks, theres much better like a test only cycle. But its not gonna kill ya or anything. Run it and see what happens. Big deal.

 

[Ian512]

I ended the PH cycle roughly 1 1/4 months ago, and because wer're talking about a legal PHs' I ran Tribulous at the end of cycle. It's not an AAS so taking more drastic measures for a post cycle therapy (pct) wasn't necessary

 

[estray]

I ended the PH cycle roughly 1 1/4 months ago, and because wer're talking about a legal PHs' I ran Tribulous at the end of cycle. It's not an AAS so taking more drastic measures for a post cycle therapy (pct) wasn't necessary

Most of the prohormones out there are actually designer steroids, they shut you down and post cycle therapy (pct) is necessary. What product was it?

 

[Ian512]

Hmmm...that's a good question. It was an off brand/generic form of Tribulous so I'm not really sure on that one. BTW, thanks for the input so far guys' and the quick responses!

 

[sean usmc]

but im a firm believer of test enan or cyp for the first cycle ..its mad gains and good size reconsider this way instead

 

[estray]

no i meant what PH did you take?

 

[Ian512]

Ohh! Supervol, is it legitimate for me to post a link? It's to late for me to reconsider, although I really appreciate the input, my next cycle will be something injectable for sure! I've already made payment and it would be a nasty mess for me to try and go back

 

[estray]

Ok, so its a superdrol clone. Superdrol is not a PH, its a designer steroid. It will shut you down and you do need post cycle therapy (pct) to restore your natural testosterone after a cycle. Tribulus is not even close to being enough.

 

[Ian512]

Not sure what to say? You know more about this than I do, so I'm just gonna go ahead and say I'm wrong, and that it would of been much safer for me to take a better post cycle therapy (pct). Just goes to show how new I am to this game. Can you give me any input on my cycle?

 

[estray]

For the dbol, run 30mg day for 4 or 5 weeks and then run your post cycle therapy (pct). Just dont expect big things. After youre done and all the water falls off you 5lbs of lean muscle gain would be considered successful. With testosterone, you could double or even triple that easily.

Still, i wouldnt even consider starting till you run some pct for that superdrol cycle. You dont want to start another cycle when youre not recovered from the previous one.

 

[stang50]

I think everyone wants to do dbol only cuz they're afraid of a needle, I was myself but u gotta get over it, it's worth it for the results