New to the forums... gear legitimacy question.

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Hey guys new to the forum, it looks to have tons of valuable information. I'll stick around for awhile:)

Anyway, I recently got a new source for test. I havnt done any juice in 2.5 years, I took a long time off due to some personal issues. So I got a bottle of testosterone from this guy to start me off and get me back into it. The gear he has is all home-made. I've had really good home-made gear in the past with no problems, so i thought i'd give it a try. However, Im a little apprehensive of it... In the past when I would hop on test I would feel it right away, but thats not the case this time. I think because its been 2.5 years this time its taking a little longer. Libido is slightly up and I immediately gained about 5-6lbs. Im hoping these are good signs....
My question is, What are usually the signs of fake gear? I've never had fake gear before.

thanks for the welcome guys..
 
I am not going to comment on this scenario, my friend. Having said that, get some blood work done so you know whether or not the product is fake.

Also, welcome to the board!
 
What he said^^^^^^ sign of fake gear is your natural test levels. Compare the blood test results uou got before your cycle to the ones you'll get soon Because you suspect your gear is fake or underdosed.

Post results here unless it's from a sponsored lab @ ology, mmmkkk
 
TEST WHAT ? At what dose did u run...?
What ester did u do last time ? At what dose ?
The above posts are solid but more wood, and 6 pounds is a good sign...not definitive but not negative....get bloods and or be a little more patient...2 more weeks and you ll know for sure.

WELCOME
 
Like T said, we need the details. Esters make a huge difference. Dosages. Pinning schedule. And so on.

Alos, please don't tell me that the only thing you got was the one vial of test. Did you follow the golden rule of having everything in hand before starting your cycle?
 
Megatron28 said:
Like T said, we need the details. Esters make a huge difference. Dosages. Pinning schedule. And so on.

Alos, please don't tell me that the only thing you got was the one vial of test. Did you follow the golden rule of having everything in hand before starting your cycle?
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You mean post cycle gear? I've never really needed it. I've used it before but didnt notice much difference.
 
siq said:
You mean post cycle gear? I've never really needed it. I've used it before but didnt notice much difference.
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Yes. PCT. AI. DA if needed.

What do you mean you have never needed PCT? Are you on TRT or Blasting and a cruising? If not, what was your natty TT before your first cycle and what is your Natty TT now? Do you retain your gains made on cycle?
 
Megatron28 said:
Yes. PCT. AI. DA if needed.

What do you mean you have never needed PCT? Are you on TRT or Blasting and a cruising? If not, what was your natty TT before your first cycle and what is your Natty TT now? Do you retain your gains made on cycle?
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My size stays close to the same for months after I've been off, eventually my muscles soften up and I shrink a little. I think thats pretty common. Then when I get back on I blow right back up. I know my test levels go way down when I get off, but thats something u gotta deal with regardless. You can take HCG, but eventually you have to get off that too, or else youre not really "off."
 
siq said:
My size stays close to the same for months after I've been off, eventually my muscles soften up and I shrink a little. I think thats pretty common. Then when I get back on I blow right back up. I know my test levels go way down when I get off, but thats something u gotta deal with regardless. You can take HCG, but eventually you have to get off that too, or else youre not really "off."
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Or you could use hCG while on cycle to minimize testicular atrophy and then run PCT (clomid and nolva) after your cycle to get your Natty T fired up again as quickly as possible. You just have to choose an approach.

So how do your blood work numbers look doing it your way?
 
Megatron28 said:
Or you could use hCG while on cycle to minimize testicular atrophy and then run PCT (clomid and nolva) after your cycle to get your Natty T fired up again as quickly as possible. You just have to choose an approach.

So how do your blood work numbers look doing it your way?
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I disagree with running HCG while on testosterone. Youre confusing your body, pulling it two different ways. You dont need HCG when theres plenty of artificial testosterone in your system. Testicle shrinkage doesnt bother me.
 
siq said:
I disagree with running HCG while on testosterone. Youre confusing your body, pulling it two different ways. You dont need HCG when theres plenty of artificial testosterone in your system. Testicle shrinkage doesnt bother me.
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You body will be able to handle the "confusion" despite what you heard on Youtube. hCG doesn't over-power the shut down effects of exogenous testosterone. It just gives a little bit of stimulus to your testicles so that they don't go completely dormant and atrophy. This helps them recover faster when it comes time for PCT. Surely if yo are into bodybuilding you can recognize that allowing any part of your body to atrophy is undesirable.

I would still love to see your blood work numbers. Can you post them up so we can all learn from your personal experiences.
 
To me it doesnt make sense to try and raise your natty test when youre on cycle. When i'm shutdown i just embrace it. As far as bloodwork goes, i'm more interested in the mirror results, not in the numbers.
 
siq said:
To me it doesnt make sense to try and raise your natty test when youre on cycle. When i'm shutdown i just embrace it. As far as bloodwork goes, i'm more interested in the mirror results, not in the numbers.
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Good luck to you. Just pin, lift and grow.
 
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