Next cycle planning

[irishflat2]

Planning for my fourth cycle before cycles have been purely test and dbol. Test 500wk dbol first four weeks last two cycles.
Im 25 years old I weight 216 my BF is 11% been working out hard for last two years on and off my whole life.
Bench Max 325
Squat Max 405
Deadlift Max 315 and needs work.

Next cycle looks as follows so far:

Test E _ 600mg ew 1-16
Deca _ 500 mg ew 1-15
D-bol _ 40 mg ed 1-4
hcg _ 600ui ew not too sure how long

PCT includes nolva and clomid

Trying to eat enough is always the biggest problem for me, dont feel like a have the appetite that I want. Any pointers would really be appreciated on fourth cycle but still new as f%*k to the gamem, always more info to take in. Thanks

 

[cyto33]

looks good
HCG right from start till the day before pct
i dont like nolva for pct with deca
if you cant eat tons switch the deca for EQ thats all you will want to dois eat.

 

[Teutonic]

x2

 

[RJ]

looks good
HCG right from start till the day before pct
i dont like nolva for pct with deca
if you cant eat tons switch the deca for EQ thats all you will want to dois eat.

i agree except for the EQ part. Deca is the shit for gaining mass. EQ is weak until you get in the 1g/week range, and why do that when 4-600mg/w of Deca will do even better.

As for eating... start eating. You gotta eat in this game. Don't worry, you'll get sick of it on either drug if you're doing it right. Just eat.

Up to you, just my opinion.

 

[Ythrashin]

i agree except for the EQ part. Deca is the shit for gaining mass. EQ is weak until you get in the 1g/week range, and why do that when 4-600mg/w of Deca will do even better.

As for eating... start eating. You gotta eat in this game. Don't worry, you'll get sick of it on either drug if you're doing it right. Just eat.

Up to you, just my opinion.

I agree Deca is the way to go. I was not impressed with EQ.

If you want to increase you apatite throw some b12 into the mix. 1000mcg EOD... You can pin it SubQ.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you'll get sick of it

agree 100%

if your bulking and dont get sick of eating, your not eating enough.

 

[irishflat2]

Thanks guys, yea hopefully with this deca I get more of an appetite. I mean I eat ok but I know that I should be eating a lot more. Like i said my training is on point just need to work on that shoveling in the food part.

 

[Ythrashin]

Thanks guys, yea hopefully with this deca I get more of an appetite. I mean I eat ok but I know that I should be eating a lot more. Like i said my training is on point just need to work on that shoveling in the food part.

B12 bro....

 

[Conrad415]

Planning for my fourth cycle before cycles have been purely test and dbol. Test 500wk dbol first four weeks last two cycles.
Im 25 years old I weight 216 my BF is 11% been working out hard for last two years on and off my whole life.
Bench Max 325
Squat Max 405
Deadlift Max 315 and needs work.

Next cycle looks as follows so far:

Test E _ 600mg ew 1-16
Deca _ 500 mg ew 1-15
D-bol _ 40 mg ed 1-4
hcg _ 600ui ew not too sure how long

PCT includes nolva and clomid

Trying to eat enough is always the biggest problem for me, dont feel like a have the appetite that I want. Any pointers would really be appreciated on fourth cycle but still new as f%*k to the gamem, always more info to take in. Thanks

I have never ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that low before. Not saying it will not work but I usually run 500 iu 3 x a week.

I use to have a problem of always feeling full but never thought I was eating enough. This changed with I took PureEQ, my appetite shut through the roof and I didnt realize how much I could eat and still stay as lean as I did.
But then heck, the same thing happens when I take GP Tren Ace.

Thanks guys, yea hopefully with this deca I get more of an appetite. I mean I eat ok but I know that I should be eating a lot more. Like i said my training is on point just need to work on that shoveling in the food part.

What are you eating in a day? Maybe we could help you out with something.

 

[irishflat2]

I have never ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that low before. Not saying it will not work but I usually run 500 iu 3 x a week.

I use to have a problem of always feeling full but never thought I was eating enough. This changed with I took PureEQ, my appetite shut through the roof and I didnt realize how much I could eat and still stay as lean as I did.
But then heck, the same thing happens when I take GP Tren Ace.



What are you eating in a day? Maybe we could help you out with something.

Ill give you an example of an average eating day.

0700: 4 egg white and 2 whole eggs with some oatmeal
1000: 40g protein low cal low carb shake
1230-1300: Tuna wrap or chicken wrap
1500: handful of pork rines or nuts and small shake
1700: Couple chicken breast or steak with some vegetables
2000: after workout - large protein shake
2200: before bed - peanut butter or cottage cheese

thanx again for any input, would appreciate any help

 

[RJ]

Ill give you an example of an average eating day.

0700: 4 egg white and 2 whole eggs with some oatmeal. add two more egg whites and make it 1 cup of oats not 'some' oatmeal
1000: 40g protein low cal low carb shake. low carb low cal is for girls and Atkins clients. Add a meal with whole food here. If you can't, at least add some substance to this shake.
1230-1300: Tuna wrap or chicken wrap More rabbit food. How about 8oz chix and 1 cup of brown rice, kidney beans, or a sweet potato
1500: handful of pork rines or nuts and small shake this is all kinds of fucked up. Youneed food guy, not shakes and pork rinds
1700: Couple chicken breast or steak with some vegetables You need carbs before you train IMO
2000: after workout - large protein shakethis should be the only shake you drink IMO. Add some carbs to it also.
2200: before bed - peanut butter or cottage cheesethis isn't a meal. hell its not even a snack. How about some lean red meat with it?

thanx again for any input, would appreciate any help

well, therein lies your problem. That diet is light as fuck on good cals. You need to eat more. See my responses in red

And pork rinds dude? Seriously? You know thats air and fat right? lol

 

[tkaltenbach]

Agree with RJ, carbs an hour before a workout make my workouts top notch. Usually a 4-5 oz bake potato or half cup of rice with your meat/protein of choice and Im balls to the wall. I just usually keep this meal at about 2/3 the size of my regular meals so I dont puke during my workout. LOL

 

[scotimusprime]

RJ tells it like it is bro, you are eating like a female so you will grow muscle like a female.

 

[irishflat2]

LOL thanks man, appreciate the help, a little painful but I got it, eat MORE. I really wanna bulk up on this next one so all this shit sounds good. And you were saying that my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) levels were gunna be too low or should I keep with that?

 

[RJ]

LOL thanks man, appreciate the help, a little painful but I got it, eat MORE. I really wanna bulk up on this next one so all this shit sounds good. And you were saying that my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) levels were gunna be too low or should I keep with that?

HCg right from the start at 250iu E3D.