No Peeks In Bi's!!!

[TPH76]

lol... you guys must always have been looking as a smaller version of yourselves at this moment...

I started training a few years ago...and my shape (thank god ) has certainly chaged a lot since I started.

I think we are using different interpretations of the word "shape"

But seriously..Trunk..keep on training...vanity is very important, it makes us tsrife for excellence. And in the spirit of what JCP2 and Blackbeard said...with 19 inch arms...there will be a whole lot of people in awe...

 

[GatorFB21]

try this:

(I don't know the name for this, so ill describe it to you)
lean over back parallel to floor, put the hand you aren't lifing on either a wall, bar or whatever. Let the arm you are curling hang down holding the appropriate dumbell. Start it out like a hammer curl into your chest, then about 3/4s of the way up, turn it and sqeeze as hard as you can in your arm. This helped the "curve" of my bicep a lot. Also, this helped make my mushy upper bi alot more solid

 

[TRIs]

I would say if you have 19" arms, you probably don't need as much help as you're asking for. I am most noted for my arms 17 3/4", but mainly because of my triceps (hence the name). I'm sure you are well aware that hammer curls and reverse curls work most to fill in the gap around your inner elbow, making your bicep have a longer appearance. Doing more regular grip curls helps to get the mid to upper part of your biceps. I took a few weeks and just did regular curls on arm days, and it seemed to help a little. So that's the best I got for ya.

 

[iron addict]

TPH76,

You simply don't know WTF you are talking about. There, someone said it.

IA

 

[blackbeard]

TPH76,

You simply don't know WTF you are talking about. There, someone said it.

IA

TY i was waiting for either you or Bubba lol

 

[truck]

I like it gator I'll give em a try today, thanks guys for all of the responses

 

[GatorFB21]

np, make sure u always get a good strong squeeze during each rep

 

[truck]

I didn't them yesterday, I liked them a lot and I made sure i got a good sqeeze, I'll keep them in my routine from now on!

 

[TPH76]

TPH76,

You simply don't know WTF you are talking about. There, someone said it.

IA

I think its more a matter of genetics...the things I say may be a bit beyond your scope...I am sorry.

http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/majgenes.html

 

[GymLift]

I think its more a matter of genetics...the things I say may be a bit beyond your scope...I am sorry.

Bullshit.

Gear doesn't have anything to do with what you said about activated and inactivated genes, or overriding genes. That would be like saying that food overrides genetics, or that working out overrides genetics. You're talking above your own head.

Gear just provides the muscle tissue with something to attach to its androgen receptor with a greater affinity. Nothing more.

 

[inked1]

the things I say may be a bit beyond your scope...I am sorry.

http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/majgenes.html

you are probably right mate, infact the things you say are probably beyond everyones scope. Thats why we are having so much trouble decyphering your bullshit

 

[TPH76]

Bullshit.

Gear doesn't have anything to do with what you said about activated and inactivated genes, or overriding genes. That would be like saying that food overrides genetics, or that working out overrides genetics. You're talking above your own head.

Gear just provides the muscle tissue with something to attach to its androgen receptor with a greater affinity. Nothing more.

You can yell bullshit all you want...that doesnt make what you say right. It does however illutrate that your actual knowledge of genetics is limited to what you read in comic books and that you have of understandig of how genes work whatsoever. Do some fact finding on the subject...and you will find out that everything I have said is based on scientific fact.

Let me explain this in very, very simple terms. Human development is regulated by genetics...ALL facets of body development are regulated by genes.

Wheter you have blue eyes or not is regulated by genetics. Wheter you have down syndrome or not is regulated by gentics. Wheter you are female is regulated by genes. How tall you can become is regulated by genes. What size you will turn out to be is regulated by genes. If you can get a certain type of aids or if you are immune to a certain types of aids is regulated by genes. Wheter your dick is going to be 14 inches or 7...is regulated by genes.

(some) genes regulate this by setting development potentials which are influenced by many, many factors. Those genes basically say: "On a scale from 0-10 you will develop between 5-9". Where between 5-9 you actually end up depends on a lot of factors.

Factors that can influence development are all to familiar: food, sleep, strees, environment, nurture (did your parents let you read books or not...very important in lingual development), society, disease, radiation, medical etc. etc.

Human genetics regulates the amount of mass your body will develop on its own. How much mass you will develop eventually depends on your exercise, your food, your overall health, your stress levels in life, the amount of hormones your body will produce naturally (which..(you guessed it)...eventually depends on genetics).

Using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) overwrites the normal human body production of certain hormones. Its thus very, very simple...you add more steroids to your body which your body would normally not produce on its own. Adding Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) thus overwrites maximum genetic development potential.

Its btw. a well researched fact that food influences genetic potential. As I said all along. Food however...is a very, very different sustance than AAS.

So next time your try to claim that something is over someones head try to be certain you have done all the research you can and actually have informed yourself about the subject the other person is talking about.

 

[TPH76]

you are probably right mate, infact the things you say are probably beyond everyones scope. Thats why we are having so much trouble decyphering your bullshit

So instead of informing yourself by asking questions or using actual arguments you automatically resort to insults?

 

[blackbeard]

TPH this is the training forum if you wanna discuss Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and your theories go ot the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) board..

Im sure almost everyone on this board thats been around a long time will agree you cannot change your muscle shape let alone see a difference in results in just 3 weeks by doing some super secret peaking twist at the top of a bicep curl..drugs or not

if you think it works for you then fine you keep doing it-but the rest of us know what works and what doesnt for the most part so dont come here and try to argue with everyone who disgarees with your muscle and fiction renditions

 

[inked1]

So instead of informing yourself by asking questions or using actual arguments you automatically resort to insults?

I have to.

I have decided that I could never be as informed as you, and since I am destined to remain genetically average ( even though I tried to alter my genes with steroids), I am going to stop working out (especially my super dooper bicep peak curl exercises) and just make random idiotic posts on steroid web boards.

Until next time

 

[TPH76]

TPH this is the training forum if you wanna discuss Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and your theories go ot the Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) board..

Im sure almost everyone on this board thats been around a long time will agree you cannot change your muscle shape let alone see a difference in results in just 3 weeks by doing some super secret peaking twist at the top of a bicep curl..drugs or not

if you think it works for you then fine you keep doing it-but the rest of us know what works and what doesnt for the most part so dont come here and try to argue with everyone who disgarees with your muscle and fiction renditions

I dont want to discuss AAS. I wanted to discuss your statement that Trunks problem is genetics.

I am saying that genes are complicated Genetic buildup and expression varies from induvidual to induvidual. Genetics is influenced by a lot of factors.

And because that is a scientific fact your original claim that Trunk can not have peaks is because of genetics MAYBE the case but its an assesment made on way to little information simply because a lot of factors can come into play here. It is also a statement which demotivates because it simply akin to: stop trying.

My introduction of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) into the debate was simply an example of what substances can alter genetic potential.

I can understand that you do not understand what I am saying but I am a little confused as to why you, and others, feel the need to retort to insults as IMO I have been very civilized whith everybody up until a certain point.

As for what I notice in my own bodys development...we can argue untill we are blue in the face. The so called "super secret" exercises (which I got from a very old thread in either this forum or dutchbodybuilding forums) I am doing are working for my biceps development. What I can only say is that the changes in my routine helps in development which was previuosly halted.

Now as you claim this change in results could never have visibaly occurd in only three weeks...and accepting the fact that on certain topics you are indeed more knowledgable than I am....I do feel very very fortunate that I seem to be the example to the rule.

I can also tell you that legg presses do nothing for me...though I do have seen other make great gains with them. I guess its simply the case that somethings work for some people and others do not.



Now seeing that you are a MOD here and I have no wish to get banned from this very informative forum I will take your suggestion

 

[blackbeard]

I
And because that is a scientific fact your original claim that Trunk can not have peaks is because of genetics MAYBE the case but its an assesment made on way to little information simply because a lot of factors can come into play here. It is also a statement which demotivates because it simply akin to: stop trying.

that statement is completely false..demotivating is trying to "think" you can build peak and you try every little bullshit trick and see no results in fact your arms may stop growing because you stopped doing what worked to try to grow something tht will NEVER happen..

My advice is if you arms are growing then keep doing what you are doing do not change anything epecially since its a falsehood tht one can "build" peak
that is why Ronnie is Ronnie any one of use here could take just as many drugs andeat just as much but none of us will ever get to look like ronnie

 

[TPH76]

that statement is completely false..demotivating is trying to "think" you can build peak and you try every little bullshit trick and see no results in fact your arms may stop growing because you stopped doing what worked to try to grow something tht will NEVER happen..

My advice is if you arms are growing then keep doing what you are doing do not change anything epecially since its a falsehood tht one can "build" peak
that is why Ronnie is Ronnie any one of use here could take just as many drugs andeat just as much but none of us will ever get to look like ronnie

Agreed...no two people can look exactly alike unless perhaps they are one egged twins with exactly the same genetic makeup AND exactly the same life.

However...you still can simply not say something is genetics unless you know all the facts.

Trying something new does not necessarilly mean that you should do stupid things. If you change your routine that doesn't mean the new routine will automatically be stupid...now will it?

 

[TPH76]

that statement is completely false..demotivating is trying to "think" you can build peak and you try every little bullshit trick and see no results in fact your arms may stop growing because you stopped doing what worked to try to grow something tht will NEVER happen..

Sorry...missed this part of your post...

I think it being demoralizing or not is a matter of personal preference then...

Personally I'd rather try till I drop and discover there is really nothing I can do about it...than stop trying at all and never knowing if heading the advice I was given based on one post is the reason why it didn't work or simply the fact that I stopped trying...

But again...a matter of personal preference.

 

[GatorFB21]

There are a lot of external factors in development as well. Evoloution. For instance, it is proven you can turn type 1 muscle fibers (Slow-twitch) into type 2 (Fast-twitch). The amount of that type of fiber you have is purely genetics.