No Sex Drive/ED post Tren , Normal Blood results

[Jpach]

Hey bros, I'm in need of some help.

Long story short, I did a Test E 150mg/we and Tren E 300mg/wk for 10 weeks. My sex drive was insane but towards the end of the cycle I was having some issues with my dick going soft even with the use of prami.

I Did a Torem and Nolva pct extended to 6 weeks (later I found out that nolva w tren is a no-no). During pct my libido and ability to get and maintain erections was pretty bad, and after pct it got worse. I figured SERMs just werent enough for tren and id have been fine if I used HCG.

Being the genius that I thought I was, as soon as I started to maybe get a little better , I decided to do an 8 week run of 150 test prop and 350 Tren Ace. This time I was using .5mg pharm caber a week and 500 iu hcg per week. During cycle my libido did increase, but not to the levels that I experienced on the previous cycle and I still had erectile issues.

After an hcg blast and Clomid and Torem 7 week PCT, I pretty much have zero sex drive and am having issues getting hard and staying hard 1 month or so after pct. 1.5 weeks ago I felt I was getting better (morning wood, some desire, orgasms increasing in intensity)but the past couple nights my dick just hasn't been able to get hard even with 30mg Cialis.

I do believe there is a psychological component to my problem, there's no question about that. But I just can't figure out why my general desire is nonexistent if my blood work says I'm normal.

I don't have my lab results in my possession yet but I got all the details of my results over the phone

TT was in the high 800s (max normal 1100)
Free Test was in the 140s (max normal 155)
E2 was 22 (max normal 38)
Prolactin was LOW at 1.0 (min normal 2.0 iirc)


Before Tren I was a VERY sexual person. Now I barely think about sex and I simply hate not feeling like myself and it's creating a lot of problems with my girlfriend and I. I just don't know what to do at this point

I was about to hop on a test cyp solo cycle since my bloods are normal and I'm not shut down, but I decided to wait a bit and see if there's something I can do about my problems first.


Where do I go from here?

 

[Megatron28]

When was this blood work done relative to ending your last PCT?

 

[Jpach]

Blood work was done exactly 2 weeks ago, I'd say 2 to 3 weeks post pct

 

[Megatron28]

Blood work was done exactly 2 weeks ago, I'd say 2 to 3 weeks post pct

Time on + PCT = Time Off. Follow this rule or you will never get back to normal again.

 

[Jpach]

Copy that, definitely pushing the cycle back a bit.

So if my labs are good, what's the deal? I've read a ton of threads started by people experiencing the same problems as myself but they didn't have lab work done and nearly everyone was n blaming high E2 or prolactin as the culprit. I'm wondering if Tren affects libido and the like through other mechanisms that can last a whie? Could this be Dopamine related?

 

[China_Wall]

not tren related at all... it's just a risk that needs to be considered when running any cycle. Even with the best PCT protocol it can take 6 months or more to get libido back to normal

 

[Prowl]

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[AGtrain]

I have had this happened to me before with tren and test cycle. Took about 6 months for libido to feel the same even with proper pct

 

[Havasu]

Everything I've read says you must weight around 8 weeks post PCT to get accurate blood levels and know what YOU are producing without any outside forces such as Clomid. I'm no expert, but passing along information from people who are very well versed.

 

[Southernfish]

Seems odd due to the fact your E2 and prolactin are on normal range I was going to guess one of them or both was way too high. It could be a mental issue. I was gonna guess one of those two things was outta whack but they are not really. I know when I run Tren my libido is so high its absolutely ridiculous and when I come off its gone, I don't think about sex really all that much but when its go time with the gf there is never an issue (I do however cruise on test). I have heard this story from numerous people who have ran Tren. My guess is its a mental thing, one time it went soft so next time you thought about that and it happened again, then the gf starts feeling unsexy (that's how they get) so that stressed you out even more, its a snowball effect, its happened to me before and its not a good situation. Try to relax and not dwell on it, the more you think of the times it went soft or whatever the more its going to happen. Also having a test level of 800 compared to, lets just say 5000 for arguments sake, is going to make a HUGE difference as well.

 

[Jpach]

Thanks for the replies guys!


I definitely agree that I'm mind fucking myself over getting hard a lot of the time which results in failure. I just cant seem to find an explanation as to why my libido sucks if I'm not shut down and E2 and prolactin are good.

I'm thinking tren has some lesser known method of causing libido and ED problems outside of prolactin and difficulty in restarting the HPTA.



And to anyone who thinks it wasn't the Tren that messed me up, I've always been very sexual with a high libido and ever since stopping tren it's completely tanked. I'm 100% sure it's the Tren. There's a reason why a ton of "My Dick Fell Off After Tren" threads exist.


Anywho, I'm in this situation now and I just want to get back to my normal sacrilegious perverted self lol.



Is the only option to wait it out?

 

[3J]

I wonder what his dht levels are... Remember it's estrogen test and dht

 

[3J]

What are your stats?

 

[Southernfish]

I wonder what his dht levels are... Remember it's estrogen test and dht

GOOD CALL!! I forgot all about DHT

 

[Rida5d]

Even with the best PCT protocol it can take 6 months or more to get libido back to normal

His blood test is showing that he has recovered.
If his tests are ok then there is no reason to have an ED.
YES it could take a long time to be normal again , but that's not the case here.
Do u think u would need 6 months to get your libido back , even ur tests showing you have recovered?
I have to disagree

 

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[China_Wall]

His blood test is showing that he has recovered.
If his tests are ok then there is no reason to have an ED.
YES it could take a long time to be normal again , but that's not the case here.
Do u think u would need 6 months to get your libido back , even ur tests showing you have recovered?
I have to disagree

I'm doubting that his bloods are "normal" only 2 weeks after PCT, from my experience it's not possible to fully recover in that amount of time... would be better to have waited a month or two after PCT to get his bloods done, that would be a reasonable time for his body to be near recovered

 

[Angry Johnny]

Could this be because he quit the Test and Tren at the same time? I've read that you should always run your Test solo for a period of time after stopping your Tren (period of time is based on Tren Ester) or your endocrine system goes all bat$hit and you crash pretty bad. Am I off base with this?

 

[Moppy1]

I agree with China_Wall, in general. I have had a number of cycles where by libido is all over the place (up, down, average) and it never seems to track with my E2 levels, or prolactin. Sometimes I go for months with very little libido, and it is mostly independent of what I am taking (tren Adrol, var, etc, etc). So, having dealt with libido and sexual performance issues for 10 years now (while on AAS) I have 4 rules that never vary. 1) Libido can crash or take off for no good reason, and while it certainly can be affected by E2 and prolactin and how much test I am on, sometimes it does not correlate. 2) Tren for more than 2 months makes it almost impossible for me to cum. 3) Caber does work, but not prami, for me. If I take a Caber in the morning, that night I have wood the entire night, and it gives my libido a boost. But this affect only lasts for like a week or 2, then caber doesnt work. 4) Letrazole 2-3x a week seems to help a little.

 

[Jpach]

What are your stats?

I am 25 years old, 6'0" about 215 right now. Not sure about exact bf % but I'm looking decent right now and people tend to think I weigh 10 to 15 lbs more than I really am. 4 cycles under my belt thusfar. Definitely no more 19-nor usage in my future.