Not hating, but.......

[Shaun47]

How come it seems like AAS is being used more and more by guys who aren't ready on this site (compared to when I first lurked here in 2008) and others are encouraging them. I swear, back in the day (if 4 years ago is back in the day) the admin's, vets and longtime members were blasting guys more so than now about proper usage. I know the information is all here if you just look around, but too many people want that "quick fix".

I don't go through a ton of threads, but I would say close to half, if not more, that I see are guys that shouldn't even be thinking about gear and yet they are on their third cycle.

Am I mistaken? Are guys just too stubborn nowadays? Vent over......

 

[crazyfmike]

Amen.

 

[bill23138]

How come it seems like AAS is being used more and more by guys who aren't ready on this site (compared to when I first lurked here in 2008) and others are encouraging them. I swear, back in the day (if 4 years ago is back in the day) the admin's, vets and longtime members were blasting guys more so than now about proper usage. I know the information is all here if you just look around, but too many people want that "quick fix".

I don't go through a ton of threads, but I would say close to half, if not more, that I see are guys that shouldn't even be thinking about gear and yet they are on their third cycle.

Am I mistaken? Are guys just too stubborn nowadays? Vent over......

idk man it seems like alot of these guys are just idiots they want to use because they are probly to lazy to put in the work to get a good body. I myself know im not ready because I havent reached my natural potential yet im 20 years old 6 foot 1 and 165 pounds but when people guess my weight its always 200 pounds or 195 pounds around there. I dont want to use until I weigh atleast 190 pounds but I have anxiety and I start school agains tommorow and if im nervous I will use steroids to huild my confidence because I know i will have much more confidence with 20 more pounds of muscle on me. I just hope it dosent fuck me in the long run like if it is harder to gain because i used before i was at my natural potential. ive been lifting for 3 years seriously. Do you think i would be hurting myself if i used now?

 

[snobE1226]

Guess us newer guys just need to keep our mouthes shut and pin w/e the hell we can get our ignorant hands on. I should prob not be giving out advice to guys in need anymore either since they are just idiots who... deserve what they get? I agree that most stuff is on here but I do a shit load of reading and researching on here and still cannot find the answers to some of my questions.

 

[Shaun47]

Guess us newer guys just need to keep our mouthes shut and pin w/e the hell we can get our ignorant hands on. I should prob not be giving out advice to guys in need anymore either since they are just idiots who... deserve what they get? I agree that most stuff is on here but I do a shit load of reading and researching on here and still cannot find the answers to some of my questions.

I didn't say don't ask questions, but when you get advice take it. This is more about the guys who are posting about cycles they plan on taking when they are not even ready for gear and other guys, who are also not ready for gear, are giving words of encouragement to these guys.

Questions are a good thing man, but make sure your advice is reliable and backed by others/sources.

 

[bill23138]

Well help me out man i just asked u a question brosif

 

[snobE1226]

OK, my bad bro.. I literally just posted something asking for advice on a pretty detailed cycle and was starting to get pissed off that I wasn't getting much help when all these BS posts are getting 30+ replies.. Haha guess I should chill a bit, you have a valid point.

 

[snobE1226]

Well help me out man i just asked u a question brosif

Yeah man, as you said your self your only 20 and your still making natural gains.. Hang around a few more years before u take the plunge

 

[bigherm2121]

It's all about now!!! No one want to wait for the right time, and often leads to not enough research. Then that leads to why this or why that in a thread. One thing leads to another. I preach and preach about bloodwork and def preach to getting bloods on first cycles. To know exactly how your body reacts to the test. People don't understand the importance of knowing your e and how your body is converting. It just leads to one word LAZY!

 

[Shaun47]

idk man it seems like alot of these guys are just idiots they want to use because they are probly to lazy to put in the work to get a good body. I myself know im not ready because I havent reached my natural potential yet im 20 years old 6 foot 1 and 165 pounds but when people guess my weight its always 200 pounds or 195 pounds around there. I dont want to use until I weigh atleast 190 pounds but I have anxiety and I start school agains tommorow and if im nervous I will use steroids to huild my confidence because I know i will have much more confidence with 20 more pounds of muscle on me. I just hope it dosent fuck me in the long run like if it is harder to gain because i used before i was at my natural potential. ive been lifting for 3 years seriously. Do you think i would be hurting myself if i used now?

Sorry, missed your question. Yes, I think you would be hurting yourself in the long run. You are too young to use now and definitely haven't reached your natural potential.. If you get your diet in check you could easily reach 200lbs pretty quickly.

 

[bill23138]

It's all about now!!! No one want to wait for the right time, and often leads to not enough research. Then that leads to why this or why that in a thread. One thing leads to another. I preach and preach about bloodwork and def preach to getting bloods on first cycles. To know exactly how your body reacts to the test. People don't understand the importance of knowing your e and how your body is converting. It just leads to one word LAZY!

So your 6 foot 1 like me when did you start aas?

 

[Shaun47]

It's all about now!!! No one want to wait for the right time, and often leads to not enough research. Then that leads to why this or why that in a thread. One thing leads to another. I preach and preach about bloodwork and def preach to getting bloods on first cycles. To know exactly how your body reacts to the test. People don't understand the importance of knowing your e and how your body is converting. It just leads to one word LAZY!

Right. And if they are lazy with that, I mean we all know there diet probably sucks too and possibly their workout.

 

[bigherm2121]

So your 6 foot 1 like me when did you start aas?

Not sure where your going with this. 6 cycles in and I'm closer to 245 now.

 

[Shaun47]

Not sure where your going with this. 6 cycles in and I'm closer to 245 now.

I think he wants to know what age you started. Because if you started when you were 20 like him, it will be ok for him to also.

bill23, my first cycle was at 18 and I regret it to this day. I am 28 now and just starting on my 2nd REAL cycle.

 

[snobE1226]

I think alot of people started too early because they didn't know where to turn for the info they needed at the time. I also think everyone on here regrets starting too early.

 

[bill23138]

I think he wants to know what age you started. Because if you started when you were 20 like him, it will be ok for him to also.

bill23, my first cycle was at 18 and I regret it to this day. I am 28 now and just starting on my 2nd REAL cycle.

Well dude I dont want to have a great body until im 23 then take roids and have a godly body I want a godly body now. But I want to become a profesional bodybuilder so thats the main reason why i havent started yet. Well man it is just extremley hard to wait day after day but ive waited for a while and hopefully i will be able to wait longer it is just a shame that I dont know if i truly will be making gains ahrder in the long run if i use now. I mean jay cutler used as a teen arnold was only 240 but he used when he was 15. it just seems like all the bodybuilder didnt wait until they were 24 but then again they pretty much all seemed to be at their natural potential except for arnold of course.

 

[Shaun47]

Well dude I dont want to have a great body until im 23 then take roids and have a godly body I want a godly body now. But I want to become a profesional bodybuilder so thats the main reason why i havent started yet. Well man it is just extremley hard to wait day after day but ive waited for a while and hopefully i will be able to wait longer it is just a shame that I dont know if i truly will be making gains ahrder in the long run if i use now. I mean jay cutler used as a teen arnold was only 240 but he used when he was 15. it just seems like all the bodybuilder didnt wait until they were 24 but then again they pretty much all seemed to be at their natural potential except for arnold of course.

If I can't talk you out of it, then at least run the solid beginner's cycle.

Also, get blood work done like bigherm suggested. If you were closer to 200 lbs natty, it would be better and AAS usage would just help you even more.

 

[snobE1226]

you should start a new thread, but have you thought about saving the money your thinking about spending on gear and getting with 3j? he can work magic bro..

 

[bigherm2121]

I think he wants to know what age you started. Because if you started when you were 20 like him, it will be ok for him to also.

bill23, my first cycle was at 18 and I regret it to this day. I am 28 now and just starting on my 2nd REAL cycle.

wanted to start when I was 20. Dis.research and did my first when I was 25.

 

[manu1433]

i must say i find it hilarious when people say "i haven't reached my natural potential"....unless you workout from the time you are 13 until you are 35 continuously with a perfect diet and don't take AAS during that entire time u really will never reach your "natural potential"